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    yay! ok I kind of want to get serious again. I suck at being serious though I can't focus long enough I'm like oooh a puppy! oh no the puppy needs a collar but he might catch on something and choke to death.
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    i dunno what else to say so

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    When my dog was a puppy he got away with everything. Untill he went into the street. When he did that, i beat the crap out of him. He never went in the street again. This effect was predictable. So is a puppy getting hit and killed in the street by a car.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    yay! ok I kind of want to get serious again. I suck at being serious though I can't focus long enough I'm like oooh a puppy! oh no the puppy needs a collar but he might catch on something and choke to death.
    Ne exraordinair. My dog wares a collar really loose as to pull out of a pinch with ease. But yet has the collar on for its information incase he gets lost.
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    Hi, this is in response to the original question: Yes, I can relate . . . and this is how I see it . . . my Ne is so fierce that I actually see the potential far more than I can see reality. and even if i can explain reality to you logically . . . and the actual reality sucks & i know it sucks . . . the potential is far more powerful for me & affects me to the point where i don't even care about the reality & i'll keep doing X or dating X or pursuing the X hobby or the X career. I do everything i can to diminish my Ne but that pesky little bugger won't go away!

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    And I hate my Ne so much. It ruins my life . . . or does it???

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    no it doesn't you can use Ne in good ways. so don't blame a function for ruining your life your functions don't ruin your life you ruin your life by letting them ruin your life. so yeah!

    ps I don't know anything about what I'm saying, I'm pretending I'm smart now.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    It's like a tree! then you think about how the tree came to be evolution of the tree, did someone fall out of the tree? is the tree sensitive? then after that you can go more into what kind of tree it is how tall etc. Does this make sense?
    so basically what you are saying is that first you think about the tree as a whole, decide you like it and then proceed to focus on its individual properties.

    that is the basic idea, but, i think, Ne has more to do with how you came up with the tree in the first place.

    the below maybe more relevant to NeTi (ENTP) than anything else...i dont know...feedback is appreciated

    your walking by a park and you see a a man sweeping small twigs and leaves into pile. you walk a little farther and then you see a hole being dug by a teen wearing a safety vest. a few more steps and there is a generous 50 yr old lady feeding some birds.

    while you are enjoying the stroll, in the back of your head, what you Ne MIGHT be doing is something like this:

    1. man, twigs n leaves
    1.1a man -> city worker? tax payer money? MY money?
    1.1b man -> ordinary person? volunteer?
    1.2 sweeping -> why not blow this shit...
    1.3 twigs n leaves -> bonfire? compost? garbage? is it fall already?

    2. teen, vest, spade, digging, hole
    2.1 teen -> 16? 19? drinking age?
    2.2 vest -> volunteer? community service?
    2.3 spade -> king (of spades)?
    2.4 digging -> electric poles? tree? teen playing prank? the book HOLES?

    3. 50yr old lady, bird food, birds
    3.1 50yr old lady -> grandma? bored? nice? kind?
    3.2 bird food -> meh. like i give a shit
    3.3 birds -> migrating? permanent?
    3.3.1 migrating-> to china? coming from the south?
    3.3.2 permanent-> baby birds? feed? nest? tall buildings? trees?

    and then Ne connects the dots..
    IDEA #1- "teen is digging a hole to plant a TREE where the birds can build nests using the twigs n leaves"

    and then you can ask those quesns: evolution of the tree, did someone fall out of the tree? is the tree sensitive? then after that you can go more into what kind of tree it is how tall etc. ....for me it'll be the Ti playing judge

    the whole process of Ne and Ti (for ENTPs), not really sure about others, is analogous to computer programming....many a times i've been amazed that the code i write is actually very similar to how my thinking process works

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    No it has nothing to do with like or not liking something. and the tree was just the first thing that popped into my head.

    edit: it's knowing the possibilities before knowing what's actually there. at least that's how it is for me.And yes everyone of my thoughts is connected in someway it might not be obvious to everyone around me but I know they relate and I know how they relate.
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    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by revolve View Post
    Hi, this is in response to the original question: Yes, I can relate . . . and this is how I see it . . . my Ne is so fierce that I actually see the potential far more than I can see reality. and even if i can explain reality to you logically . . . and the actual reality sucks & i know it sucks . . . the potential is far more powerful for me & affects me to the point where i don't even care about the reality & i'll keep doing X or dating X or pursuing the X hobby or the X career. I do everything i can to diminish my Ne but that pesky little bugger won't go away!
    Quote Originally Posted by revolve View Post
    And I hate my Ne so much. It ruins my life . . . or does it???
    i know what you mean...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisGuy View Post
    so basically what you are saying is that first you think about the tree as a whole, decide you like it and then proceed to focus on its individual properties.

    that is the basic idea, but, i think, Ne has more to do with how you came up with the tree in the first place.

    the below maybe more relevant to NeTi (ENTP) than anything else...i dont know...feedback is appreciated

    your walking by a park and you see a a man sweeping small twigs and leaves into pile. you walk a little farther and then you see a hole being dug by a teen wearing a safety vest. a few more steps and there is a generous 50 yr old lady feeding some birds.

    while you are enjoying the stroll, in the back of your head, what you Ne MIGHT be doing is something like this:

    1. man, twigs n leaves
    1.1a man -> city worker? tax payer money? MY money?
    1.1b man -> ordinary person? volunteer?
    1.2 sweeping -> why not blow this shit...
    1.3 twigs n leaves -> bonfire? compost? garbage? is it fall already?

    2. teen, vest, spade, digging, hole
    2.1 teen -> 16? 19? drinking age?
    2.2 vest -> volunteer? community service?
    2.3 spade -> king (of spades)?
    2.4 digging -> electric poles? tree? teen playing prank? the book HOLES?

    3. 50yr old lady, bird food, birds
    3.1 50yr old lady -> grandma? bored? nice? kind?
    3.2 bird food -> meh. like i give a shit
    3.3 birds -> migrating? permanent?
    3.3.1 migrating-> to china? coming from the south?
    3.3.2 permanent-> baby birds? feed? nest? tall buildings? trees?

    and then Ne connects the dots..
    IDEA #1- "teen is digging a hole to plant a TREE where the birds can build nests using the twigs n leaves"

    and then you can ask those quesns: evolution of the tree, did someone fall out of the tree? is the tree sensitive? then after that you can go more into what kind of tree it is how tall etc. ....for me it'll be the Ti playing judge

    the whole process of Ne and Ti (for ENTPs), not really sure about others, is analogous to computer programming....many a times i've been amazed that the code i write is actually very similar to how my thinking process works
    +1 perfect!! this is how my brain works too...great explanation.
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
    -Jim Morrison

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