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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    It was obviously directed at intuitives who bash sensors. I don't have a problem with someone saying that, but I do think the label "inferiority complex" is very overused and usually inaccurate.
    In this case yes, but he didn't really say that. What he said seems to hold true in most cases. I see "inferiority complex" as more of an expression myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cimarron View Post
    I think both suggestions have some merit: Maybe a misconception of what Sensing is, and maybe "prejudice" from dealing with the rest of society. And yet putting too much of the blame on "misconception of Sensing" sounds almost like an excuse. It sounds like an "easy way out" of an uncomfortable spot.

    But, we must understand that misconceptions do not arise by themselves....people bring it forward, first. Hence, is it really an 'easy way out'? Are we really absolving people of their part to play in this?
    I was just trying to see this issue from another view than 'he said/she said', to 'what he said/what she said'.

    It's easiest in terms of sustainable dialogue to attack the what than the who. IMO.

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    These sorts of threads always make me examine my owns thoughts and feelings. I feel that if i dont watch myself, ill become just as bigoted as the rest of the world.

    It occurs to me that there are Sensors on this forum who I greatly respect and there are iNtuitves who I just dont.

    So I guess im in the clear.

    That said...SJs are the most annoying thing on the planet at times.
    I hope I'm wrong, but I believe that he is a fraud, and I think despite all of his rhetoric about being a champion of the working class, it will turn out to be hollow -- Bernie Sanders on Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    In this case yes, but he didn't really say that. What he said seems to hold true in most cases. I see "inferiority complex" as more of an expression myself.
    Usually when I hear the term, it's being used by someone to bash someone else.... because that person bashed them.

    But in reality, it's an extreme and somewhat rare affliction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren Ashley View Post
    As per usual.

    Halla, disregard what I said about that then.
    Disregarded, it's all good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancynobullets View Post
    ...That said...SJs are the most annoying thing on the planet at times.
    Ha! I know a ESTJ who is hilarious but can also be a REAL pain in the arse! That's coming from me, another sensor, what I traitor I am...

    This is just proof that for any given type of people, there are both gems and dipshits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarc View Post
    So, as I said, it's not SJ or NJ which allows for greater speed at making up one's mind.

    EJs are different than IJs. It's due to Introverted Perception vs Extraverted Judgement, and which comes first.

    IJs have Introverted Perception (Si/Ni). So, they don't make up their minds as easily as perception wants more information before applying it through Je (Te/Fe).

    Whereas with EJs, who favour Extraverted Judgment (Te/Fe), they've may have made their minds up quicker due to the previous information that was stored through Pi (Si/Ni).
    Meaning...........we need the J for speed in making up the mind (versus the P), right? And, since this thread is about Sensors (whose 'opposite' is N), my example of SJ versus NJ. I wasn't trying to get to the nitty-gritty of 'speed of decision making' across all types. It was a response to another poster regarding close-mindedness in the SJ, hence, my comparison of NJ. J being the key, not the sensing (or intuition) <-- this was my point.

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    I have a guess as to why this is, aside from what's already been said--

    This place is kind of an escape for many iNtuitives. Since we're a minority in the real world (about 25-30% of the population), we constantly have to live and work in the Sensory world, which is not our natural playing field.

    I am mocked by Sensing friends, family and co-workers in real life constantly for not being attuned to my physical surroundings and the realistic details of the here and now. And since 70-75% of people are Sensors, this is perfectly acceptable in common practice. "LOL look at the stupid NP that can't remember to tie his shoes or put gas in his car."

    And that's perfectly okay, because most people really do find that to be stupid. Yet when I mock someone for lacking iNtuitive abilities, now suddenly I'm an asshole. Why would you expect anyone to understand that shit? Making fun of people for not grasping abstract intuitive systems, wow, what a fucking dick!

    The attitude I get constantly is something to the effect of, "If you're so smart as to understand all this hypothetical bullshit, how can you be so stupid as to not understand basic rules of common courtesy? You must intentionally be an asshole!"

    And without fail, the only people that understand what this is like are other Ns. We don't want to live in the real, tactile, Sensing world most of the time, but we have to, and we're tired of getting shit for not understanding it as well, so we gather here to talk shit about you. That's pretty much it.
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    Simulated World, we were also wondering how much of it (if any) was due to a misconception about what the Sensing function is.
    You can't spell "justice" without ISTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Guess you never read the part about vengeance from the bible
    *shakes head* You've never read a Bible.

    Poor delusional man.
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