Yup.Originally Posted by Nocap
Yes! That was my problem with Apollanautís description of Judging.Actually, Costrin has it backwards. It's the perceptions that don't change. What happens actually, is that when new perceptions come in that don't coalesce with the previous ones, one of them has to be thrown out. But they're not changed. Judgement decides which perceptions are good and which are faulty. But even still, those perceptions are still there, they're just usually ignored.
Ultimately, what judgement boils down to are decisions.
Anyway, a decision can change when new perceptions come in. Especially when gaps are filled.
But conversely, I suspect this is what would happen when J interferes with P. From another thread:
Originally Posted by zarc
We are, yea.I think we are actually on the same page here, I am in complete agreement with this:
Yes, I see it clearly now. It's about "delving into the unconscious" as you wrote prior, not N being unconscious itself. It wasnít until I was halfway through, identifying, that it struck me where to find the information I needed to clear up my misunderstanding. Voila! . Ha.As for intuition, it does indeed rely on the unconscious mind. As I stated, it is usually triggered by an external object or an internal image, from which the unconscious mind generates an idea or thought (an "intuition") which itself becomes conscious. However, the person having the intuition may remain entirely unconscious of the original triggering factor. For example, my own intuition generates an unending stream of thoughts, speculations, ideas and fantasies. If I pay attention to a particular idea or train of thought I might be able to track it back to its source ("Where did this idea come from?") but more often than not, I have no idea what triggered the intuition in the first place.
In all honesty, I've been trying to divorce myself from the rather fanciful understandings of N and in particular Ni. I've become rather sensitive lately to the selective understanding that most people seem to have of it, putting N on a pedestal, so to speak. One way was disregarding unconsciousness from MBTI but thatís not exactly quite what I mean. Ugh. Wording this is difficult. Or maybe that Ni seemed so natural to me considering it unconscious was to render my use over it impotent and consequently all Pi users too. >_> I hope I made sense. Basically, I'm not even sure I did disregard them but instead changed the meaning of them. But yea, thanks.
Y'know, I find this funny, but it just occurred to me that I answered it myself, without realising it, when I said with regards to perceiving: "You're aware yet unconscious?" (Take lucid dreams, for ex, you can have full or partial awareness yet you're physically unconscious. It's just a new perception of reality!) and to then to Evan: "We become aware of the information, or conscious, as it occurs to us." As it occurs! LOL!
Hmm is right. That was all a quickie, biggie guess. The idea was fun to play with, though. I might need to replace the bits on consciousness. Hmm... Edit: actually, I'm thinking it still works.Originally Posted by Costrin
Quickie answer. The kinds we've yet to acclimate ourselves to or arenít able to rely on our primary/auxiliary. Iíll further this later.Under what circumstances are shadow functions accessed?
By similar perceiving functions, I meant itís Introverted or Extraverted counterpart. So it might be easier for an Si dom to access Ni as opposed to Ne.You mean Si/Se and Ni/Ne?