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    Default FPs, how changeable are your values?

    In my ongoing quest to figure out the functions, I make this thread.

    Supposedly Fi is responsible for a value system, and judging situations according to those values to determine how you feel.

    First off, do you agree with this definition? Second, assuming that definition is accurate enough, how hard is it to change your values? How often does it happen, and in what kind of situations?
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    The function is explained correctly.

    As for changing my values if I experience a flaw in one of them then I will make changes accordingly. Say that I'm against animal cruelty (which I am). If animals started running rabid and killing everyone, then I would no longer be against being cruel to said animals killing everyone. Otherwise my values are long standing and don't budge, and I stick to my guns at all times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    The function is explained correctly.

    As for changing my values if I experience a flaw in one of them then I will make changes accordingly. Say that I'm against animal cruelty (which I am). If animals started running rabid and killing everyone, then I would no longer be against being cruel to said animals killing everyone. Otherwise my values are long standing and don't budge, and I stick to my guns at all times.
    So basically, if some of your values end up conflicting, then you choose one you prioritize more, and change the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    I'm really trying to come up with an answer to your questions, but God help me, your avatar is boring into my soul.
    That's probably the point of it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    So basically, if some of your values end up conflicting, then you choose one you prioritize more, and change the other?
    What was the second value in question in the example I provided? The only one that I said in there was the animal cruelty one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    What was the second value in question in the example I provided? The only one that I said in there was the animal cruelty one.
    Presumably, that people dying is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Costrin View Post
    Presumably, that people dying is bad.
    Yes you could put it that way most definitely, I just didn't mean it that way in the example. You're a clever one, that would have went through my mind as well if I saw this. But it was more along the lines of the animals turned evil suddenly, so why should I be against being cruel to something evil?

    You make adjustments like that accordingly.
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    I really don't know. I'd have to work out what my values are first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Yes you could put it that way most definitely, I just didn't mean it that way in the example. You're a clever one, that would have went through my mind as well if I saw this. But it was more along the lines of the animals turned evil suddenly, so why should I be against being cruel to something evil?

    You make adjustments like that accordingly.
    And they're evil because they're killing people, right? Because killing people is evil.

    So 'killing is bad' rates higher than 'animal cruelty is bad', or maybe a more generic 'cruelty is bad'. In the case of conflicts between values, killing is bad would win as its higher, so animal cruelty gets changed to compensate (or not, and then you get cognitive dissonance).

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I really don't know. I'd have to work out what my values are first.
    Yeah, that's one thing I noticed. Fi judges according to its values, but its not consciously aware of the criteria it uses. That can only be inferred in retrospect by analyzing the judgments it gives.

    Sounds similiar actually to the way my Ti understands the essence of something, and judges based on that. It isn't easily expressed the way Te logic is.
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