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    Default ENTPs do you relate: black and white vision and dislike fuzziness

    "You tend to see the world in black and white and dislike fuzziness"
    (from the test on TypeSorter )

    I relate to this and I think it's typical J-ness.
    This is my primary personality trait; I can't handle fuzziness.

    I'm interested in learning about the ENTP, and the differences between J/P.

    So: what is your equivalent of this primary personality trait?
    bruised and battered ENTJ sx/sp/so 8w9
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    (I'm secretly ENxP, but don't tell anyone)

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    Everything is fuzzy, black and white is so limiting. If I had a choice of learning or just knowing Id pick learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonardoLestat View Post
    "You tend to see the world in black and white and dislike fuzziness"
    (from the test on TypeSorter )

    I relate to this and I think it's typical J-ness.
    This is my primary personality trait; I can't handle fuzziness.

    I'm interested in learning about the ENTP, and the differences between J/P.

    So: what is your equivalent of this primary personality trait?
    black/white is so final. it's boring. there's not more to learn, to investigate, to poke at. To expound on. And, hardly most things in this world can be summed up that neatly. The only one that's for certain: life/death. Everything else....

    ..well, I like to dream in colour.

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    I'm just here to verify the ENTJ perspective

    I can't help but try to classify and categorize, so all people and things end up falling into some category. I often want to know the status or progress of something, be it a relationship or some task at hand, which means trying to clearly define it. Hence, black-and-white (or at least "gradientless") thinking sometimes. As I've relaxed my J, this has become less prevalent, at least as compared to other J's.

    I'm willing to bet that primary Fe is similar, in that a person can fall into a particular social role and is therefore defined by that role.. any FJ's want to comment?

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    I see nothing as black and white, everything has special cases. If you don't consider those special cases, you run the risk of running into severe problems down the road.
    The probability that I was procrastinating when I was typing this post:

    P(have big assignment due) = 0.6
    P(posting on TypoC) = 0.2
    P(having big assignment due | posting on TypoC) = 0.7

    P(posting on TypoC | having big assignment due) = .......


    Eh, I'll finish it later.

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    It's hard to take action and progress when everything is fuzzy. It's not that I don't see gray, it's just that if something is too gray it's not actionable, and in many ways, worthless. (And I'm counting decisions as actions here.) I don't want to spend my life spinning in circles, but I also don't want to be so obsessed with clarity that I close my mind from actually seeing what's there.
    "When a resolute young fellow steps up the great bully, the world, and takes him boldly by the beard, he is often surprised to find that it comes off in his hand, and that it was only tied on to scare away the timid adventurers." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    the more complex the more stimulating

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    I'm an INTJ but to me all of the extroverted functions are more fuzzy than the introverted ones.

    Ni is very clear to me
    Te gets to be more fuzzy than perhaps Ti
    Fi is plain and simple
    Se is completely everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenomite View Post
    I see nothing as black and white, everything has special cases. If you don't consider those special cases, you run the risk of running into severe problems down the road.

    Exceptions to every rule.
    Although black/white thinking says: 'define every exception so it can be fit into the black and white scheme!'
    bruised and battered ENTJ sx/sp/so 8w9
    Tri-fix: 8w9 sx/sp - 3w4 sp/sx - 5w6 soc/sx
    http://leonardolestat.mypersonality.info

    (I'm secretly ENxP, but don't tell anyone)

    "Mother, I love you, I never meant to hit you over the head with that shovel."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyz22 View Post
    the more complex the more stimulating

    I agree with that... simple is boring

    But... what is the endresult for the P people, especially ENTP's?
    I know the technical, official answer, it's what Jung says... but I need some concrete, personal experiences.
    bruised and battered ENTJ sx/sp/so 8w9
    Tri-fix: 8w9 sx/sp - 3w4 sp/sx - 5w6 soc/sx
    http://leonardolestat.mypersonality.info

    (I'm secretly ENxP, but don't tell anyone)

    "Mother, I love you, I never meant to hit you over the head with that shovel."

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