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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_Orbit View Post
    Eh? Thats the first time I've heard anything like that. Do you have a website or something where I can find out more?
    Which part? The "tabla rasa" or clean slate is from Myers-Brigg's book, "Gifts Differing". The statistic that I claimed is a simple division of the 16 types (100/16=6.25).

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    The tabula rasa theory has been around longer than the MBTI and has been called into serious question. Rightly so, I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    The tabula rasa theory has been around longer than the MBTI and has been called into serious question. Rightly so, I believe.
    I have no doubt that there are serious questions, no different than free will/predestination. Since there is no evidence that we are genetically inclined to a particular type, questions can and should be raised on both theories. Regardless there remains no facts to support type rarity, and how the statistics add up should be equally questioned.

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    I thought it has been shown that personality factors such as introversion/extraversion do indeed have a genetic component. I've never believed in tabula rasa.... what an ancient idea.

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    Sure, but are you not referring to introversion/extroversion? There is a difference and Jung purposely spelled his differently to refer to how we take in energy. Besides E/I only shows the attitude of a function (S/N, T/F), no more. And the J/P is merely a redundance of the extraversion of S/N or T/F.

    There are easy and quick tests like this one. But I think the average person is ambiverted. Now its easy to argue the chicken/egg scenario of am I an introverted extravert, or an extraverted introvert. Its one of those things that MBTI missed in creating their inventory since I have always been ambiverted.
    You have both introvert and extrovert tendencies. While you may be a wallflower at an event where you don't know anybody, you could be the life of the party at events where you are comfortable with those surrounding you.

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    As I have been mentioning elsewhere, there are a few factors that are blended which can create this "introvert/extrovert" mix effect. Not only I/E, but cooperative/pragmatic also helps shape how fast you approach others (Like ISFP's active streak, because of the SP, despite the IF), and both Informing/Directing and Structure/Motive are forms of people/task focus, with people-focus being a kind of "extroversion" as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    I just got his newest book "Brains and Careers" and he seems to think that Guardians make up 50% of the population, Artisans make up 40% of the population, Rationals only make up 5% of the population, and Idealists only make up 5% of the population.

    What do you guys think about this?
    I feel like I know a lot more than 10% iNtuitives. (More like 25%)
    I handed out a survey to a large random sample of students at my college and there was a 75/25 S/N ratio.

    If this is true, I don't mean to sound all emo, that would really make clear why there are so few people in the world I can actually relate to...
    Perhaps the distribution is different at a college compared to the census population?

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    Well, in my experience, N's seem to find each other. My "main" group of friends at my university is all N's except for maybe one person (and this is out of a good 15+ people). Of course the ratios of S to N among my friends wouldn't be representative of, say, the whole student population of my college--because we probably ended up befriending each other in part because of that small similarity.

    That said, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the general population was only 10% N.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ? View Post
    Since there is no evidence that we are genetically inclined to a particular type, questions can and should be raised on both theories.
    There is a lot of evidence for this. Not that MBTI has done a lot of twin studies AFAIK, but there are some in the overall picture and every trait has a genetic component. This is true in the large picture as well, and will apply to any personality theory (ie: big five, original studies referenced).


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    I believe Kiersey's numbers come from a very early MBTI study and is not representative of the population.

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