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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    'selfish' Fi reasons.
    why selfish???:horor:

    you have right to do what you want, and probably you do know best what's good for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gauche View Post
    why selfish???:horor:

    you have right to do what you want, and probably you do know best what's good for you
    I realize that, but in the heat of the moment, I often feel like if I were to do what I wanted to do, I'd give the other person the shorter end of the stick. So I end up conflicted, as I don't enjoy that feeling, and try to come up with a half-assed compromise. Hence the term 'selfish'.
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    Excuse me for this question, but what exactly is Fi? I get most of the other cognitives, but still am a little confused by Fi. Can someone help me out?

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    It's what the person themselves considers to be important, true and is highly individual. It's what causes us sometimes to disobey certain rules and regulations, negate traditions and do what we consider important, regardless of the consequences. It also represents our core values, for instance, no harming other people, directly or indirectly; always help others; always be tolerant of others perspectives and opinions, etc. It's our moral compass in life, pretty much.
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    Amargith: It's situational use. Use your Fi when it's needed and Fe when it's needed. As other posters have said it's a conflict of interests and you will have to make a decision.

    I have a similar conflict between Fi and Te. My thinking functions are very high (my Te was a few bars below all the rest, Ti is in high use also) so I always have to make the decision, is it better to do what makes me happy or is it better to do what would make the most sense? If I do what makes the most sense it's the most beneficial, if I do what makes me happy then I feel better. It's all dependent on the situation, I choose either of those equally.

    Look on the bright side, at least you HAVE an Fe function. I only got 5 points in Fe, I never consider social norms nor do I care anything about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Amargith: It's situational use. Use your Fi when it's needed and Fe when it's needed. As other posters have said it's a conflict of interests and you will have to make a decision.

    I have a similar conflict between Fi and Te. My thinking functions are very high (my Te was a few bars below all the rest, Ti is in high use also) so I always have to make the decision, is it better to do what makes me happy or is it better to do what would make the most sense? If I do what makes the most sense it's the most beneficial, if I do what makes me happy then I feel better. It's all dependent on the situation, I choose either of those equally.

    Look on the bright side, at least you HAVE an Fe function. I only got 5 points in Fe, I never consider social norms nor do I care anything about them.
    Euh, my life is a chaotic mess coz I have almost no Te..and Fe is draining to use for me, so I think you should reconsider that last statement


    But tnx for the input, I'll have to mull it over a bit...
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    my fe was almost as high as my fi on that test too...i think we both had high ne and high se right? which contradicts other tests so i'm not sure about it.
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    I'm not sure they conflict. I'm becoming more attracted to Fe as I learn about it more. And I can see in a lot of situations how an Fe standpoint can also be justified with Fi. Like if something helps people in an Fe way, it is still helping people on a deeper level, and if you can see that in a situation, Fi will give you drive to do it. In terms of views on the world Fi will conflict because it tends to think social conformity is stupid, but otherwise they seem to cause more misunderstanding of eachother than conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    After taking the functionstest, I was wondering if others, who also have a rather high Fi and Fe function, find that it seems like one can sometimes very much interfere with the efficiency of the other?

    I find that in some situations, my need to cater other peoples needs inhibits my ability to judge and act according to what would be right and beneficial to me. It also doesn't help that one of my core values is to help other people as much as I can and allow them to be themselves as much as possible in the given situation. I often find myself distressed and feeling guilty if I cannot provide this and even more so if it is because of my own 'selfish' Fi reasons.


    Do others recognize this? And how do you cope?
    Concerning Fi matters, there is always a lot of chaos going on. if you solve one problem a dozen of new problems will emerge and the whole situation becomes unsolveable.

    I think your motives to be true and I am happy that at least some people still try to care about others and try to imagine how they would feel.

    You bear the mark of the ENP on this one, is my guess. Namely you know things but you dont know how to tell others. Thats either insanity or for real. I cant tell myself thus far and I think I never will
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