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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Which Harry are we talking about?
    hmm, you might be too young for the reference. I'm kind of stretching it myself really.
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    I'm thinking Dirty Harry, but I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I'm thinking Dirty Harry, but I'm not sure.
    you got it
    Dreams are best served manifest and tangible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    you got it
    The nerd smilie threw me off a bit, so it got me thinking maybe Harry Potter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I'm in a stereotyping mood today, so don't mind me. Just making a few more nicknames. Don't worry, I'll hate all types equally:

    SJs
    This is the group that the principals and teachers love. They are the example setters for the rest of the school to follow. They are the smart ones who study hard and probably will be voted as "Most Likely to Succeed."

    ESTJ: The Valedictorian
    The ultimate example setter for an American male teen. People admire this type for being practically good at everything. They get good grades, are socially active, and are generally attractive and charming. Usually very mature for their age, because they know how to set limits for themselves. However, they are often intolerant of those who don't conform.

    ISTJ: The Hall Monitor
    These people are similar to the ESTJs, but quieter. They often do well in school, are well-rounded, and possibly active in extracurricular activities. May be independent, but will conform if it helps them meet a strategic goal. They are probably the most uptight. However, like the ESTJ, they are critical of the others who don't conform to the established ideals.

    ESFJ: The Preppy
    The model student for an American female teen. Interested in makeup, clothing, and anything trendy, usually to appear more socially desirable. Therefore, they seem to be interested in all kinds of music, movies, and other forms of entertainment. They like small dogs, say "Ewww!!!" a lot, and they're afraid of spiders and Goth kids.

    ISFJ: The Doormat
    The ultimate loyal followers. Whatever "group" they are affiliated with, they will be unbending to its cause. Goes along with other people's plans lest it damage their friendships. They are often chameleons -- they do things because their friends do it, and they are generally very effective at it.

    * * * * *

    SPs
    This is the group that the principals and teachers hate because they are hard to discipline. They rebel for the sole purpose of enjoyment. Although they cause trouble, they have a reasonably easy time getting out of it. For this reason, the intelligence of this group is often underestimated.

    ESTP: The Jock
    Like the ESTJ, the ESTP is handsome and charming in appearance, but is more of a free spirit. The ESTP's goal is probably more geared toward their chosen interest for the pure enjoyment rather than setting an example. Hence, the ESTP won't hesitate if he enjoys a more underground life. The ESTP is perceived as either the "star" or the "bully." The ESTP is liked for his "bad boy" persona.

    ISTP: The Warrior
    Somewhat like the ESTP, but quieter. This type is highly skilled with mechanical things, and possibly a math whiz. People are probably drawn to this type because of his mysterious aura. A male ISTP will quite possibly be perceived by women as "sexy" because of his graceful movements in performance. His earthiness plus enigma makes his appeal possibly even more intense than the ESTP. The ISTP is both smart and practical.

    ESFP: The Hedonist
    Here we have the ultimate fun and pleasure seeker who loves life and the people within it. Probably the most impulsive type and most likely to be diagnosed with ADHD. They enjoy exploring the world for the pleasure in of itself. Always makes the best of things, and is arguably the happiest of all types.

    ISFP: The Art Connoisseur
    Like the ESFP, appreciates aesthetic experiences, but is more personal. This often leads the ISFP to display an independent streak and a knack for artistic performance. And so, this type is more likely to be involved in artistic performance such as dance, modeling, or painting. Displays a subtle flamboyancy and quiet narcissism. Others accuse this type as being snobby.

    * * * * *

    NTs
    People of this group are, much like the SPs, overlooked for their intelligence. However, while the SPs are perceived as being hyperactive, the NTs are perceived as socially dysfunctional in one way or another.

    ENTJ: The Punk
    This type likely to be perceived as the ESTJ's deviant twin. Rather than conforming, the ENTJ is highly critical of the status quo and has no fear of expressing and acting upon it in the world. Here we have the original visionary pioneer or unforgiving misanthrope. Very simply, the ENTJ does not take things the way they are. The ENTJ may also seem like the ESTP, either a jock or a bully. If a jock, the ENTJ sees a strategic purpose behind it, while the ESTP sees enjoyment. If a bully, while the ESTP may simply enjoy teasing others for fun, the ENTJ acts out of vengeance.

    INTJ: The Rebel
    Think of the INTJ as an ENTJ on the inside. This means that an INTJ probably has similar values as the ENTJ, but unlike the ENTJ, the INTJ has a certain lack of confidence, and so lives their visions in their internal world. INTJs likely have a vision of a change, but has less confidence in applying it. And where the ENTJ is confident about standing up to enemies, perhaps dreaming up and applying creative methods of defeat, the INTJ lives it in his/her mind.

    ENTP: The Joker
    The ENTP is the original goofball and ultimate punster. The ENTP can be extremely inventive and have unique off-the-wall ideas, but most types dismiss them as being ridiculous. The ENTP is likely perceived as an underachiever and possibly even stupid and obnoxious. And so, despite being Extraverts, they are sometimes not particularly socially desirable. Others perceive them as entertaining, funny, and all around good company, but ultimately superficial.

    INTP: The Know-it-all
    The INTP is the one who is book-smart and deeply knowledgeable. They are collectors of trivia regardless of its practicality. They are likely to have esoteric interests or otherwise interests atypical of others in their age group. Like other NTs, and especially the ENTP, the INTP likely has a unique, quirky sense of humor. They are usually intellectually playful, but have trouble taking things seriously. They lack the awareness of social cues, such as how they come across to others, but like other NTs, they often don't care.

    * * * * *

    NFs

    ENFJ: The Trend Setter
    These are the world's humanistic idealists. They are often very artistic in their approach; they are often funky dressers or else have their own unique way of expressing themselves. The ENFJ is both conservative in that they like order, but also unconventional in their style and views. This is why practically every type is drawn to the ENFJ. Their innovations are masked by their outer seductiveness, whether they realize it or not.

    INFJ: The Romantic
    On the inside, this type is similar to the INTJ, but the persona they show to the world couldn't be more different. Where the INTJ is the critic (or misanthrope) who sometimes comes off as a jerk, the INFJ is much more pleasant on the outside. They somewhat resemble the ISFJ in that they are often used as "doormats" because they don't wish to damage their relationships. True also, that both the INFJ and ISFJ can be insecure, but where the ISFJ generally sweeps their inner processes under the rug, the INFJ sweeps their outer perceptions under the rug in favor of walking their inner landscape where they live their unconscious desires.

    ENFP: The Drama Queen
    At first glance, the ENFP may seem like the ESFP, but where the ESFP is a dramatic realist, the ENFP is the dramatic idealist (hence their nickname). Where ESFPs are their own personalities, the ENFP dreams of an idealized sense of self, which could lead them to be either fantastic actors and actresses or cunning manipulators. The ENFP's habit of idealizing the self and the world around around them place a risk of confusing their own reality. And so the ENFP is deep in the sense that they are perceptive and can create a fantasy out of world around them, a gift that could make them into astonishing storytellers (or pathological liars), but also shallow in that they may lose their own true identity.

    INFP: The Pagan
    A quiet form of the ENFP. They share the ENFP's trait of idealizing the outer world and leading their own path, but they have better balance between the outer world and their own inner reflection. The INFP shares rich personal ideals with the ISFP and an active fantasy life with the ENFP. But where the ISFP's ideals are mostly geared around physicality (comfort and beauty), the INFP's ideals are often unattainable in present physical reality, and can only be lived through imagination, which they have a desire to express through an artistic media. Their easy-going yet dreamy, ethereal nature leads the typical INFP to be perceived as the "Pagan" wanderer.
    This is fifty years hence. And it is by the way. Do not be annoyed.

    I tell this only because I know Uberfuhrer secretly admires Swedish ESTJ athletes.
    Uberfuhrer. I had a Swedish ESTJ athlete in the school.
    He was tall and muscular. He did not button his shirt all the way to the top.
    This is because he was not an ISTJ.
    I had also an ISTJ in the school. His father was the ISTJ Wachtmeister of the school.
    If you do not know what a Wachtmeister is it does not matter.
    I am not discussing him. We are concerned about the ISTJ son here.
    The ISTJ son had his shirt properly buttoned.
    This is all I can say about the lad.

    All the SPs had been kicked out of school (except one) so I cannot say anything about them.
    The SP lad who had not been kicked out was Dutch. He had not been kicked out because he was actually an NP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    This is fifty years hence. And it is by the way. Do not be annoyed.

    I tell this only because I know Uberfuhrer secretly admires Swedish ESTJ athletes.
    Uberfuhrer. I had a Swedish ESTJ athlete in the school.
    He was tall and muscular. He did not button his shirt all the way to the top.
    This is because he was not an ISTJ.
    I had also an ISTJ in the school. His father was the ISTJ Wachtmeister of the school.
    If you do not know what a Wachtmeister is it does not matter.
    I am not discussing him. We are concerned about the ISTJ son here.
    The ISTJ son had his shirt properly buttoned.
    This is all I can say about the lad.

    All the SPs had been kicked out of school (except one) so I cannot say anything about them.
    The SP lad who had not been kicked out was Dutch. He had not been kicked out because he was actually an NP.
    I would've thought the Dutch SP would've been the first to be kicked out! (Marijuana and prostitution is not legal everywhere, you know!)

    Swedish athletes are probably not ESTJs, but repressed ExFJs. Very tradition- and family-oriented, those Swedes are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    INFJ: The Romantic
    On the inside, this type is similar to the INTJ, but the persona they show to the world couldn't be more different. Where the INTJ is the critic (or misanthrope) who sometimes comes off as a jerk, the INFJ is much more pleasant on the outside. They somewhat resemble the ISFJ in that they are often used as "doormats" because they don't wish to damage their relationships. True also, that both the INFJ and ISFJ can be insecure, but where the ISFJ generally sweeps their inner processes under the rug, the INFJ sweeps their outer perceptions under the rug in favor of walking their inner landscape where they live their unconscious desires.
    This is actually on the right track. Imagine that. I think INFJs can tend to be high achievers and perfectionists, but manage to be overlooked despite it. A young insecure INFJ can be quite a ghost socially. They can at times make an deep impact when they share their inner ideals allowing themselves to be more extroverted, but then the next moment slide into a state of being completely undetectable. The various natural dichotomies of the personality can be especially difficult to reconcile when young.

    You also suggest a dichotomy in your description about their inner vs. outer modes. The INFJ views others from the inside so to speak, and has to learn that others do not do the same. People respond to the outside, never seeing the inside, so the experience is one of continual misunderstanding. I'm not referring to being polite on the outside and angry on the inside. That's a woeful distortion and a tired clique'. It's more about determining what is worth sharing. Waiting and observing to get a better sense of the consequences of being 'seen'. Sometimes the misunderstanding is more efficient if the person is determined to perceive the falsehood. Offering someone a blank slate and observing what they paint on it will tell you far more about a person than you can imagine. Many times the consequences of being seen are not good and so it saves time, energy, and emotion to withhold until reasonable. It can be about creating efficient emotional systems, just like the INTJ desires to create efficient systems of other kinds.
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    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    i must have been a different type in high school.
    Why? Because "The Slut" wasn't one of the categories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nottaprettygal View Post
    Why? Because "The Slut" wasn't one of the categories?
    Actually, I was going to label the ESFP as "The Slut." But I decided against it.

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    what were other INTJs like in high school?
    *You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.
    *Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods.
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