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    Quote Originally Posted by FantailedWall View Post
    ENFP-ESFJ???!!! Whaaaat?
    Both from a (limited, granted) understanding of type and personal experience - I'd say that doesn't ring right for me in the slightest.

    My best friend is an ESFJ. We don't act alike in the slightest - other than both being extroverted and having similar interests (the latter being totally independent of type)

    Every socionics site I've been on has read that ESFP is an ENFP's look-alike, and THAT rings with more truth, imo. (Again - both from my understanding of type and from personal experience. The ESFP I know and I can seem very alike on a superficial level - in truth, we are not at all but we look alike)

    EDIT: Just realised your theory is not socionics-based?
    Nonetheless - in regards to ESFJ/ENFP at the very least - I disagree.
    agreed. i have no idea bout female ENFPs, but generally the male ENFPs i know look like an odd combo of INFP and ESTP (maybe i should just say ISFP?)

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    I don't want to get off subject too much. Remember were only talking about moods and why they're portrayed one way or the other through action.

    I can agree that ENFPs and ESFJs are very different personalities, but they have a quite similar outlet for temperament. In my opinion you're thinking to subjectively with the criticism.

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    You should take into consideration the main functions. This only works with T and F mainers though. I'd say it's something like this from these kinds of people:

    INTP-ISTP, INFP-ISFP, ENTJ-ESTJ, ENFJ-ESFJ. Otherwise I am unsure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    INTP-ISTP, INFP-ISFP, ENTJ-ESTJ, ENFJ-ESFJ.
    INTP-ISTP and ENFJ-ESFJ don't work well at all as temperament pairs. They are really different, from experience and theory says so as well. ENTJ-ESTJ is an okay match, but ENTJ fits ESTP much better. ISTP fits INTJ much better. I've always preferred ISTPs form of expression more than the INTPs, and I relate with it more.

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    So the ISTP and INTP sharing Ti doesn't make them a lookalike? Also ISFP-INFP with Fi, ENFJ-ESFJ with Fe, ENTJ-ESTJ with Te.

    I've seen ISFPs, and from the surface I'd say I would have a hard time distinguishing them from an INFP on my first impression (usually introverts hide their true selves until they accept someone).
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons View Post
    INTJ-ISTP (need definition) Melancholic Pragmatic
    INFJ-ISTJ (need definition) Melancholic Cooperative
    ENTJ-ESTP (need definition) Choleric Pragmatic
    ENTP-ESFP (need definition) Sanguine Pragmatic
    these are the only ones i strongly agree with (based on experience).

    changes:
    ENFP - ISFP (my enfp uncle and best friend, both look very ISFP)
    INTP - they have no look a likes...

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    Really, they don't look alike. You may see Ti in both, or Fi in both. They are used for opposite reasons. Functions don't matter in look-a-like because its based on temperament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons View Post
    I don't want to get off subject too much. Remember were only talking about moods and why they're portrayed one way or the other through action.

    I can agree that ENFPs and ESFJs are very different personalities, but they have a quite similar outlet for temperament. In my opinion you're thinking to subjectively with the criticism.
    No they don't. No we aren't.
    Can't you see the difference of Fi and Fe?
    It's very different. Very very different.

    And I'm subjective, so what?

    My opinion:
    ENFP-ESFP
    ENFJ-ESFJ
    INFJ-ISFP
    INFJ-ISFJ
    ISTP-INTP
    ESTP-ENTP
    ENTJ-ESTJ
    INTJ-ISTJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcea rosea View Post
    No they don't. No we aren't.
    Can't you see the difference of Fi and Fe?
    It's very different. Very very different.

    And I'm subjective, so what?


    Did you not read everything, the disclosure?

    Temperament has nothing to do with what functions one uses. Really it doesn't. You are obviously thinking of intentions/opinions, because two Fi users would most likely have similarities here.

    Quote Originally Posted by alcea rosea View Post
    My opinion:
    ENFP-ESFP
    ENFJ-ESFJ
    INFJ-ISFP
    INFJ-ISFJ
    ISTP-INTP
    ESTP-ENTP
    ENTJ-ESTJ
    INTJ-ISTJ
    Most of these are more contrasting in their moods than similar!

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    I'm not bashing your theory. I've read all the MBTI books so I understand the cooperative etc thing. I just don't see much similarity between me and ISFJs. To be honest I think the type that is most similar to the INFP is the INTP on the outside. We both seem to communicate in the same way (in the way it's said that is). My reasoning for this is because INTPs will make their point in their talking based on their logic, and an INFP will make their point through what matters to them. It's communicated through Ne I believe, but I could be wrong because my understanding of how MBTI effects communication is pretty vague.
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