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    Default Do J's lack self-confidence ?

    I mean, one logical question at this point. If J's are the decisive ones and P's are the indecisive ones, do J's then lack self-confidence ?

    Because they have to present to others what they would do, as opposed to knowing what to do ?
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    I don't think so, since they're more sure of decisions.

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    I dont know. Dont think about it as the word means it, think about it more like what they want to do. If you have someone who has something to everything, he is most probably going to be unsure about what is right and vice versa.
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    Pretty hard to explain
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    I'm really interested in understanding your question. Do you think you could try re-wording it?

    The way that I'm reading it, I would think you would be asking if P's lack self-confidence because of their indecisiveness.

    On a related note - I would wonder if J's lack self-confidence because of their need to control their outside world. Ultimately, I think both of these speculations would better fall into the enneagram realm (ex., Type 1's).

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    Nono. Think about the guy who has everything. Who ownes the whole world and can buy everything. What would be the classical example ? He would want to be loved. So he wants the simplest of things (simplest in terms of how much it costs).

    So you have the J, who always has a decision to everything. Why isnt it then possible that he can lack self-confidence, because with all that decisions he wouldnt know which one to pick for himself.

    The P on the other hand never makes decisions. But adores the few he has, in such a way that it could be labeld self-confidence.
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    To the contrary, the J is often much more self-confident than the P.
    The J feels that he or she is able to make decisions very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    ...The P on the other hand never makes decisions. But adores the few he has, in such a way that it could be labeld self-confidence.
    I don't know about that. I make decisions all day long, and am quite comfortable with them once I issue/act on them.

    There are times when I get indecisive, and that is usually when there is something big at stake that I don't feel has been fully analyzed for me to make a decision about. BUT, that might be more of a guy thing, "retreating to my cave" to mull something over, instead of making a decision with what I consider insufficient information at a given point in time...

    And adoring my decisions is not a source of self confidence for me. I am more confident that I am at peace with myself, smart enough to get started on most anything I need to get into, and also smart enough to reach out for help when I come to the limits of my abilities/experience, and sure of myself as a fair and decent person. I set out to do my best and try to make my endeavors a winning event for all involved. That's an ESTP way of doing things from what I can tell. I am not afraid of decisions at all, but would rather shoot the breeze with the locals watching a meaningless sporting event while playing billiards, truth be known...


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    I really don't understand what you're saying. Many people have self-confidence, both J's and P's. And the same J's and P's also lack self-confidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    To the contrary, the J is often much more self-confident than the P.
    The J feels that he or she is able to make decisions very quickly.
    Yeah, that's what I was trying to say earlier.

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    You didnt get it
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