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    I disagree as someone who is attending college with a bunch of Type A J-types who are very confident in their abilities- even if those abilities don't actually exist to the extent they think they do... however, I will admit that could be from insecurities. However, I think many of them lack the introspection to even realize they are insecure..
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    I dont think so, but thats another story for another thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I mean, one logical question at this point. If J's are the decisive ones and P's are the indecisive ones, do J's then lack self-confidence ?

    Because they have to present to others what they would do, as opposed to knowing what to do ?
    I think you're assuming that Js would agree that knowing is basically the same as doing. But if they agreed to that, they would be Ps...well NTPs, anyway.
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    I think it's a matter of perspective, each may view the other as lacking self confidence but only because they are picturing themselves acting like the other and that feels unnatural to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    I think it's a matter of perspective, each may view the other as lacking self confidence but only because they are picturing themselves acting like the other and that feels unnatural to them.
    I dont mean that in the way of who has the biggest. I am more assessing a problem real Js could really have.
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    Because they rush to closure?

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    No because they can come to the point when their ability to rush to alot of closures in several directions, dont give them the answer in which direction to go nomore.

    Ok You are right about one thing, self-confidence isnt the right term. And I think I am more talking about Js who are able to question their motives.

    I nevertheless think that the self-confidence of a J on a certain thing could be never as that strong as the self-confidence of a P on the same thing. Just given the facts that the P needed 10.000 times to come to this closure, the J ought to come into a position neglecting all the facts, where he has 3 secure ways of decision-making to go. And he does not know which to go
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    Ps are seriously pleased with themselves when they are finally able to make a choice, but I don't think that makes their choices any better than J's. If we don't like the first choice we make, then we make another one. Making decisions is not a big deal. Ps take it sooooo very seriously, like the fate of the world rests on their daring to eat a peach. :-D

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    You take it again to a "who is the best" level. You dont get it
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    You're right. I don't. I tried...

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