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    I use the other functions, but I definitely have Ni.

    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    I'm just going to refer to the functions as magic spells.

    I now cast Fi.
    * no effect *
    Hmm, grammar must be strong against Fi. Damn.
    Fi is good against Ne

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    Know what?
    Nevermind.

    You guys can just wallow in your insipid fruitlessness for all I care.

    Go ahead and close the thread.
    we fukin won boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Know what?
    Nevermind.

    You guys can just wallow in your insipid fruitlessness for all I care.

    Go ahead and close the thread.
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    Nocapszy, I'm interested. Could you please explain more?

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    I'm going to second hmm, and agree with Nocapszy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Types don't "have" anything.

    I'm tired of hearing "ENTPs have Fe and Ti" or "ISTJ has Fi"

    It doesn't work that way you guys.
    It's not about posession.
    I did get you nocap. But bear in mind, its not our problem in the end
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    Sorry guys, Jeffster and the peanut gallery ruined it for everyone.
    we fukin won boys

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    Nocapszy, I think you are on to something and you should stick to your guns. However, you made some pretty strong claims and then failed to back them up, so it was hard to take your post seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Yes and no.
    I'm not being one of those grammar bitches.

    It's irritating because it displays (and later causes) poor understanding.
    If we speak this way, it gives the impression that a type is a mindset, or... a decision or something like that.

    It's not.
    You may be onto something here, but the way you worded it amounted to little more than "everyone who uses this particular grammar doesn't understand the theory". You didn't bother to see if there is an actual reason we chose the words we do.

    I'd say that perhaps we are just using the theory in a different way. Since I'm a computer programmer by trade, I tend to encapsulize concepts and then deal with the aggregate. It's how my mind works.

    So I like to think of Fi, Ti, whatever as an whole object that I can then apply to situations. Using 'has Ti or has Fe' becomes a natural extension of this. The problem, though, is that this is a real academic Ivory Tower approach, and neglects that the functions are used. It's taking real life application out of the picture in a very subtle way. This is where I can agree with you, and will be more mindful of how I use the terms in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Sorry guys, Jeffster and the peanut gallery ruined it for everyone.
    /serious.

    You know, I think "The Peanut Gallery" would be a pretty cool user name.

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    Why not just treat it as shorthand for, say, "According to the model, ISTJ prefers Ti" or "According to the model, ENTP prefers Fe (over Fi)"?

    Hell, despite my signature, I don't much believe that there should be a strict separation of, say, Ne and Ni, but I just interpret and speak of "Ne" in rough terms as "Intuition applied externally."

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