• You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to additional post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), view blogs, respond to polls, upload content, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so please join our community today! Just click here to register. You should turn your Ad Blocker off for this site or certain features may not work properly. If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us by clicking here.

Field Independence

wildcat

New member
Joined
Jun 8, 2007
Messages
3,622
MBTI Type
INTP
What made Homo Sapiens Sapiens a distinct and a superior specimen?
Intelligence?
Analytical prowess?

:huh:

The cause is the effect in the initiation point only.

A dichotomy is a parallel process.
There is no time factor involved.


What is the root of the cause?
Availability.
What is availability?
It is a tool.

Cooperation=field dependence.

Cooperation is hierarchy of social order.

Do you believe in the hierarchy of social order?
In other words:
Are you field dependent?

Does the revolutionary believe in the hierarchy of social order?
Yes.

Otherwise he would not be a revolutionary.
 

wildcat

New member
Joined
Jun 8, 2007
Messages
3,622
MBTI Type
INTP
Hence is the zero ahead of the number?

It is the only the initiation of the number.

Is the subject ahead of the object?

No.

Is the initiation before of the number?
 

niffer

New member
Joined
Apr 26, 2007
Messages
1,217
MBTI Type
ENfP
Enneagram
8w9
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
For once, I get wildcat.
 

Mercurial

New member
Joined
Jul 31, 2007
Messages
93
MBTI Type
ENTP
Enneagram
9w6
Does the revolutionary believe in the hierarchy of social order?
Yes.

Otherwise he would not be a revolutionary.

The revolutionary believes in rearranging the hierarchy or replacing it altogether. Effective revolutionaries know how to collapse the existing hierarchy on itself to demonstrate that it does not work.

So, yes. But, it's a conditional belief.
 

ptgatsby

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 24, 2007
Messages
4,476
MBTI Type
ISTP
What made Homo Sapiens Sapiens a distinct and a superior specimen?

The thumb.

Intelligence?

The gear on which the thumb worked.

Analytical prowess?

The engine that turned the gear on which the thumb worked.

The cause is the effect in the initiation point only.

All engines and all machines start with the smallest of tools. The one that makes the biggest machines dominates.

Social orders revolve around these abilities. There are many social orders but only one dominant machine building species - and the machine dominance means species dominance.

A dichotomy is a parallel process.

Even so, there must always the first. The eventual equal outcome for two processes from one initial condition does not imply the same timeline.

There is no time factor involved.

Time is an illusion - it is all relative to the one measuring it. We are a a mere blink in the long view of species.

What is the root of the cause?
Availability.
What is availability?
It is a tool.

Indeed. The option was presented and one took it.
 

wildcat

New member
Joined
Jun 8, 2007
Messages
3,622
MBTI Type
INTP
A conditional belief.

In Russia the word kulak means a rich landowner.
It is said Stalin murdered millions of kulaks.
Stalin did not ascend to power before the kulak wars were ended.


Marxism was not a movement favoured by the left wing intellectuals in Russia.

The majority of the revolutionaries held petty middle class views.
They were the progeny of the petite bourgeoisie only.
Sons and daughters of little tradespeople.
The village nobility.

The peasants who had served the Czar were given a noble status.

Both of the grandfathers of Lenin were petty bureaucrats.
Both of them had the rang of a general.
Both of them became rich landowners.

While the kulaks entered serfdom the Uljanov family prospered.

They learned to read. They hired governesses to tutor their sons and eventually to tutor their daughters.

Then came the new Czar.

First he gave gave the serfs a right to exact a wage for their toil.

Eventually he freed all the serfs. They were allotted land at the expense of the nobility. They became the kulaks.

The elder brother of Lenin tried to kill the Czar.
He was hanged.

Uljanov joined the Marxists.
He soon became the leader of the minority faction of the Russian Marxist movement.
The split within the Party was not official.
Divide and rule. The lesson from the Czar. To unite is to split.

He united the tactics of the bourgeoisie Jacobine revolutionary movement and the strategy of the Marxists.

The Social Revolutionary movement had a long tradition in Russia.

Initially it enjoyed large encouragement and the support among the Nomenclatura.
The collective village had become the rule of the land.
The Kibbutz.

The serfs could not be beaten any more by the landowners.
The landowner was forbidden the ancient right to rape the bride of the serf on her wedding night.

The Czar gave women ownership rights.

Hence after the death of the father the sadly reduced Uljanov family fortune was governed by the mother of Lenin.

She was not free handed.
Vladimir got his allowance.
A humiliation none the less.

Mother and son corresponded. They exhanged frequent letters about the insolence of the kulaks.

Vladimir advised his mother to fire everyone who was not useful.
The pregnant women and the elderly in the first hand.

When the WW I broke out the German government found Lenin handy.
They put him in a train and they sealed the doors so he could not escape.

Good tactics is not infrequently bad strategy.

Every coup is preceded by a revolution of a kind.
For later generations the coup becomes the revolution.

So it was in Russia.
A conditional belief.
 

laughing dolphin

New member
Joined
Jun 12, 2007
Messages
40
MBTI Type
INFJ
The thumb.
It can't come down to thumbs, the chimps and apes also have thumbs, yet are not homo sapiens sapiens. It has to be all about the brain...and all of those different thinking functions homo sapiens sapiens seem to be capable of...whether they use them or not.
 

ptgatsby

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 24, 2007
Messages
4,476
MBTI Type
ISTP
It can't come down to thumbs, the chimps and apes also have thumbs, yet are not homo sapiens sapiens. It has to be all about the brain...and all of those different thinking functions homo sapiens sapiens seem to be capable of...whether they use them or not.

We could simply be the first to have the ability to use them fully... given time, others could become like us. The question would be if any other species would have the ability to become tool users like us, or whether the "thumb wielders" would be "unique" in this aspect.
 

wildcat

New member
Joined
Jun 8, 2007
Messages
3,622
MBTI Type
INTP
The thumb.



The gear on which the thumb worked.



The engine that turned the gear on which the thumb worked.



All engines and all machines start with the smallest of tools. The one that makes the biggest machines dominates.

Social orders revolve around these abilities. There are many social orders but only one dominant machine building species - and the machine dominance means species dominance.



Even so, there must always the first. The eventual equal outcome for two processes from one initial condition does not imply the same timeline.



Time is an illusion - it is all relative to the one measuring it. We are a a mere blink in the long view of species.



Indeed. The option was presented and one took it.
Correct. The hand is the tool of the brain. Hence the final stage of evolution is the development of laterality.
The increase in complexity.

I think of Mendel.
Mendel reminds me of Bach.

A rainy day Bach went to see Haendel. Bach was a poor man, a Kantor.
He could not afford a horse or a carriage.
Bach walked half a night and all day in the rain. The notebooks he had with him became all wet.
He presented himself to the servant of Haendel as a fellow composer.
He had interesting notebooks with him the master perhaps would like to see.
The master was not interested. Bach never saw Haendel.

Mendel wrote a letter to Darwin. He presented himself as a humble monk, not a scientist. But he had dicovered a law of genetics.
Darwin did not answer the letter.

Mendel discovered the primary intelligence.
The uncanny one. The economical thing.

The intelligence of nature is far beyond the modest ability of Homo Sapiens.

The primary tool was devoid of a thumb.
 

ptgatsby

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 24, 2007
Messages
4,476
MBTI Type
ISTP
The primary tool was devoid of a thumb.

Ah, but the tool shapes the environment just as the environment shapes the tool. One is nothing without the other; one does not grow without the ability to apply tools... one does not learn to hunt with spears with a thumb, and one does not learn to make spears without the ability to use spears. They must come together - the mind adapts to the body, to the environment. The mind grew too quickly for it to be purely evolution. It requires triggers to allow it to develop.
 

wildcat

New member
Joined
Jun 8, 2007
Messages
3,622
MBTI Type
INTP
Yes.
Field Dependence made Homo Sapiens Sapience the lord of the earth.

Division is repetition.
Did RNA discover the primary mode of division?
No.
The primary mode of division discovered the RNA.
This is why they do not find a cure for cancer.
The original file was lost. It was not needed any more. You cannot turn back the clock.

Tic tic ..
 
Top