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    She (ISFJ) is very kind but is not gentle.
    I (INFJ) am very gentle but I am not very kind.
    How well put

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    Wow. I've come to closely know/observe to two ISFJs (my mother and my best friend's sister) and three INFJs (one ex, two friends) so far - and I cannot see the similarities (introversion aside) at all.
    I can't speak for 'em all, but I'll note the differences they've had in common.

    ISFJs
    - Tend to be more irrational, and are more inclined towards displays of emotion (if they are upset at you, they won't hide it - and they'll often have a 'poor me' complex)
    - Tend to have an outward appearance of caring more - will directly ask you if something is the matter
    - Are more generous with their observations
    - An open book once the trust is there
    - Have a penchant for gossip
    - Are more likely to be swayed by appealing to their emotions
    - (When calm) Feet deeply set on the ground

    INFJs
    - Appear more aloof, have to 'peel back the layers' (can even seem uncaring)
    - Come out with the most curious of statements backed by their own personal brand of logic
    - Appear to be more 'guarded', even once you've gained their trust
    - Are more likely to guess what's the matter, and catch you off guard by saying things like 'so - your mum went to therapy again? Sucks. Sorry.' etc.
    - Appearance of general apathy towards what they deem to be 'trivial' everyday matters
    - Are more likely to be swayed with a logical argument
    - Head in the clouds

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    Quote Originally Posted by FantailedWall View Post
    Wow. I've come to closely know/observe to two ISFJs (my mother and my best friend's sister) and three INFJs (one ex, two friends) so far - and I cannot see the similarities (introversion aside) at all.
    I can't speak for 'em all, but I'll note the differences they've had in common.

    ISFJs
    - Tend to be more irrational, and are more inclined towards displays of emotion (if they are upset at you, they won't hide it - and they'll often have a 'poor me' complex)
    - Tend to have an outward appearance of caring more - will directly ask you if something is the matter
    - Are more generous with their observations
    - An open book once the trust is there
    - Have a penchant for gossip
    - Are more likely to be swayed by appealing to their emotions
    - (When calm) Feet deeply set on the ground

    INFJs
    - Appear more aloof, have to 'peel back the layers' (can even seem uncaring)
    - Come out with the most curious of statements backed by their own personal brand of logic
    - Appear to be more 'guarded', even once you've gained their trust
    - Are more likely to guess what's the matter, and catch you off guard by saying things like 'so - your mum went to therapy again? Sucks. Sorry.' etc.
    - Appearance of general apathy towards what they deem to be 'trivial' everyday matters
    - Are more likely to be swayed with a logical argument
    - Head in the clouds
    If I didn't find them so annoying, I couldn't have said it better myself.
    "Truth stands true, independent of whether you agree with it or not."

    "Don't let what matters least, matter most."

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Unfortunately most mass marketed products are aimed at SJs in some way or another, since they are by far the largest of the four temperamental subgroups.
    Well, of course. And look, doesn't it bring in profits?
    You can't spell "justice" without ISTJ.

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    FantailledWall: Why did your boyfriend and you broke up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorkan View Post
    FantailledWall: Why did your boyfriend and you broke up?
    In short? 'Coz he was a very screwed-up individual who had a martyr complex, and wouldn't allow me to help him - he'd rather push me away and dwell in his darkness.

    Why do you ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paisley1 View Post
    Ladypinkington, hit the nail on the head!! Wow! Well said!

    The less time I spend with an ISFJ, the better! I have great difficulty with them, as they usually rub me the wrong way, as I find a general "fakery" about them, not all, but most.

    I find their sense of loyalty to be insane, to the point of covering up the tracks of their friends who've possibily committed a crime and insulted their own family, if the bond is strong enough. Just think of any nurse who's given you an IV, she was probably an ISFJ. Willing to go the extra mile and follow orders and please everyone, but at what cost to your self respect??? Why can't you guys just be yourself, why is the herd so bloody important to you? At the same time, they have a horrible time expressing how they feel. In a relationship, it's gone beyond,the old adge (which they like), "do as I say, not as I do" and is now at, "do as I think, not as I say"!!! They're the teachers that drive you nutty, and often, do not think outside the box and can't see brilliance if it came up and shot them in the face. The guys are the worsed I'd say, and in the extreme cases, live with a false front, because they have to act like the norm, rather than be themself. The ones who've honed their inferior traits, they are unstoppable forces of nature, able to lead, because they really do know the attitude of the herd. That said, the ISFJ drives me nuts, and more often then not, I do not like or appreciate their sense of humor, not to mention the deer in the headlights look when I've explained something to them that I find simple, or the fake laughing at a joke that they didn't really get or understand.

    As an INFJ male, I look at the billion or so ISFJ's out there, wondering, "Ok, now what was the point of that?" They are the ones I have to be nicer to, and be patient with, over and over.

    ISFJ's are the reason all the CSI's and Law and Order's, do so well on TV, just keeping the status quo and enjoy all that tactile investigation. LOL!
    Hi how are you doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmm View Post
    Hi how are you doing?
    LOL
    You tell him, girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FantailedWall View Post
    LOL
    You tell him, girl.
    Oh, I'm not mad at him or looking for a fight with him, but I get the feeling that he thinks we're not human or something. I dunno. I'm just trying to understand where people are coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmm View Post
    Oh, I'm not mad at him or looking for a fight with him, but I get the feeling that he thinks we're not human or something. I dunno. I'm just trying to understand where people are coming from.
    (To stereotype) You're an ISFJ. Of course I don't think you're looking for a fight!

    I was just giving the famous ENFP cheek.

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