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    Some people mistakenly might think that when I'm talking about "intellectual stuff" I'm just trying to make them feel stupid or show-off my knowledge. Which ironically is exactly the opposite of my intention since I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation and if I considered them dumb I wouldn't even try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt22 View Post
    That ENTJ's are driving, insensitive, and snappish. Though, to be fair, I am most comfortable when I'm in that state.
    Mm. I'm more comfortable in bed having sex, or playing soccer. Much more fun, ain't it?

    And that ENTJ's are all about themselves. Some do give that impression, yes. But ultimately, we'd rather run things than focus on ourselves.
    I'd really rather focus on myself and closest ones. Running things is an hassle. I like running as sport, though.

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    Bullshit. You sound more like an ENTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt22 View Post
    Bullshit. You sound more like an ENTP.
    Yawn. Close-minded idiot.

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    FDG, you have returned to believing that you are ENTJ? After reading your above post, what you right at enneagram institute and conversing with you for the past couple of years, I am unsure why you would think otherwise. Yet, since ESTPs and ENTJs can look-a-like, it's understood why you would vascillate on the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "?" View Post
    FDG, you have returned to believing that you are ENTJ? After reading your above post, what you right at enneagram institute and conversing with you for the past couple of years, I am unsure why you would think otherwise. Yet, since ESTPs and ENTJs can look-a-like, it's understood why you would vascillate on the two.
    I vacillate too! One day I like more to go to the beach, the next one to study computer science and economics with all the windows closed and without any form of social contact. Next day I want to be the chief of the school council, and the next one I want to emigrate to Hawaii and spend all my day lazing.

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    Misperceptions:
    1. My laughter/low-key approach to things means I am not taking them seriously.
    2. My lack of overt emotional response means I do not care about someone or something.
    3. Focusing on the impersonal aspects of a problem means I am completely discounting/ignoring the personal aspects.
    4. A boring exterior means a boring interior.
    5. Being "soft" outwardly or flexy means I can't be tough when it counts.
    6. Having ideals and visions and a strong imagination means I'm not realistic.
    7. Being so messy outwardly means I enjoy the mess. (Actually, I don't; but it means less for me to clean up, or I can't seem to figure out how to get it organized because I refuse to just make broad categories; so I live with it because I'd rather be doing something else more important.)
    8. My being quiet around new people meaning that I must be a snob (no, I'm just scared of saying the wrong thing).


    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    I'll accept Sona is an ISTJ since that's what he states, but he doesn't come off very close to the written descriptions imo. The deliberate stirring up of drama is not center line sensible. It's all rather prankstery and difficult from appearances to understand the 'why' of it. Both of those aspects don't seem textbook ISTJ.
    Really? Honestly, I've never doubted the ISTJ reading and was surprised to see you doing so. He's not being "prankstery" as much as he's just "acting out" as ISTJs are very wont to do, at least the ones in my age bracket and lower. (ISTJs in their 40's and higher tend to be more stable or show a more intellectual bent here in the US... but perhaps that is because I am mostly in professional-style circles.) Sona is angry towards authority. He wants a reaction. It gives him an excuse to vent and release his frustration. ISTJs can be very very ornery against established authority that they disagree with. They are trapped in that framework; they don't feel comfortable just IGNORING it, but they cannot keep their mouths shut either because their intellectual ideals are being violated, so they stir up trouble instead on a low-key level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Misperceptions:
    1. My laughter/low-key approach to things means I am not taking them seriously.
    2. My lack of overt emotional response means I do not care about someone or something.
    3. Focusing on the impersonal aspects of a problem means I am completely discounting/ignoring the personal aspects.
    Yeah, I run into all of that as well. The above does suggest that you (like me) in situations where an emotional reaction it is expected, choose not to make use of Fe.
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    You appear to have a very limited vocabulary and lack the ability to identify the correct responses for a variety of different questions. A deficient vocabulary can hinder you in many ways; you may struggle to find the correct words when speaking, fail to understand what others are communicating to you, or come across as inarticulate to others.

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    No one knows "my type", but people often think I'm either really high or was really high the previous night. I've never done drugs at all though, so its kind of irritating. I think this is because of my calm outside nature, my weird and sometimes trippy art (like a flying purple Rhino), and maybe some other things I'm not aware of.

    People often see me as horribly disorganised and impractical. The impractical part is true, but I only seem disorganised because the things where people actually pay attention to organisation (like school) I don't really have a strong interest in. Things I do care about I organise and can be very bitchy about. If someone puts something important in the wrong palce, I'll make sure they know about it

    I don't know what people think of me when they first meet me, especially my dad's friends, because I'm quiet and hate small talk. Introductions are really uncomfortable, so I think epople might think I'm very anti-social. My dad says I'm anti-social soemtimes, like when I get home from school and he asks me how it was and I say it was bad because I don't like being surrounded by people so much. He says "thats a bad attitude" or "don't be so anti-social", but I'm really not anti-social at all.

    A lot of people who don't know me think I'm stupid because I don't talk much and when I do its often random or irellevant. At some point they get to know me better or hear me talk a bit more about something I care about and say "wow, you're actually smart after all".

    Some people think I'm irrational... its not that I'm irrational, its just that I can't talk statistics and numbers, I always divert it away from those things. Business class was tough in that sense, ahahaha. I've noticed that when talking to more rationally thinking people they're argument/opinion is based in reality and fact, while mine is hypothetical or imaginative, which results in "but realistically that will never happen" and me having to remind them I'm aware of that but I like exploring the posibilities of ideas. I suppose that all ties into the practicality I'm spoke of earlier, or lack thereof.

    My favourite has to be that I'm insane. People tell me I'm insane or crazy or just really weird all the time, and I get a good kick out of it, it makes me feel like I can get away with anything somehow. "Why do I do whatever? 'Cause I'm crazy ol' GZA."

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    That INFP are all people pleasing crawlers.

    Please meet my little friend...:steam: He sleeps in the 4th bedroom.

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