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    Quote Originally Posted by erinavery View Post
    i've never heard it quite that way before...interesting...disoriented by all the different waves of personality?
    I think that's more why people wear tinfoil hats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erinavery View Post
    but out in an environment that i willingly go to...lots of talking with and laughing with people...i'm not about "me" at all in those situations though...the focus is never on myself...i'm not really self conscious or analyzing myself in anyway...i'm just focussed on the people around me.

    i don't know if that contributed anything...i didn't really read all of it...sorry.
    I think that's a good point: the focus is never on myself....
    I totally understand!

    Hehe, for the last part, I'm not very good either in reading all posts in threads . I think somebody commented me something about that some time ago.

    One lol for tinfoil hats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I think that's more why people wear tinfoil hats.
    dude...shut the hell up!! haha *I* know what i mean...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alcea rosea View Post
    I think that's a good point: the focus is never on myself....
    I totally understand!

    Hehe, for the last part, I'm not very good either in reading all posts in threads . I think somebody commented me something about that some time ago.

    One lol for tinfoil hats!
    and yeah...knew you'd know!! haha and just can't sit and read super long posts when i'm tired...ahhh! haha...but of course i still gotta say somethin...haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by erinavery View Post
    and yeah...knew you'd know!! haha and just can't sit and read super long posts when i'm tired...ahhh! haha...but of course i still gotta say somethin...haha
    hmmmm....
    the randomity of your thought seems so familiar
    I love it!

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    i know...never noticed that about myself but i see it in all the enfp posts around here...so funny!
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    Quote Originally Posted by erinavery View Post
    i know...never noticed that about myself but i see it in all the enfp posts around here...so funny!
    Thoughts always make perfect sense to the one thinking them.

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    haha...i guess so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    I have one observation from real life I would like to share and in a way it is confession.

    Introverts say that they lose energy in social situations, at leat in some of them.

    As far as I know idea that extroverts are social and introverts less so is not true. The real picture is that extroverts are energised by people and introverts are not or they lose energy in the process.
    (this is simplistic view)

    I, as a person always score introversion 80%-100%.

    The thing is that I have very well developed inner world that never shuts down even in most social situations. In a way it so intense that it can't be shut down.

    What leads into somewhat bizzare situation.

    I am producing more energy then I can lose.
    When I analyse my life this can even be observed. Most of my life I am alone since that is my natural state but I don't have social phobias.
    Few times in my life I have been to real partys and all of them had something in common.
    I was always the one that was leaving last and after it I was the same as at beginning. My battery was full, since I was unaffected by entire thing on this level.

    The reason why I seek any contact with others has nothing to do with E/I but with NTJ part. I know I need them to achive my goals or to get an information but that is mostly it. All parts of my NTJ part are strong as my introversion. I was thinking about how this is even possible but when I take a look at who I am there is no point in not accepting test results.

    My theory is that this is mostly because of my extremly weak Fe. When I am around people I don't create emotional bonds. So I think that emotional bounds could be what is draining introverts. Plus I have never stoping source inside me.
    Because of this I can come as very impersonal person from which you can't hide. Over the years I have managed to muster enough skill to soften this trait. This can probably explain why I don't have romantic feeling.

    Also there were cases when I have managed to drain strong Es with my approach. Since they can't take that much interaction and I can since I am not losing energy. Many peope find this trait quite odd because it makes me hard to place in social stereotypes.

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    I believe the supposed "extroversion" traits (for the purpose of "goals") is tied to the NT part of it, and Keirsey's factor called "pragmatism". As you know, Keirsey divides the types into 'temperaments'. Before we even got into type and Jungian functions, introversion/extroversion were used to measure the four temperaments. Sanguine and Choleric were the "extroverts". It is universally agreed that in the type groups, SP is the Sanguine. I have been disagreeing with Keirsey's claim that NF was Choleric and NT Phlegmatic. NT seems more Choleric; if you know what to look for. (hint: not "exciteability"). The notion of "using people for goals" (and not otherwise responding to them much or being "impersonal") is a typical trait of the Choleric.
    The NT and SP shared in common the factor of pragmatism ("do what works") while the other two were "cooperative" ("do what's right"). Right here, it becomes clear that pragmatism is a form of "expressiveness"; in which a person is quick to act or move towards people for some purpose. Hence, it is basically the conative counterpart to "extroversion". The I/E dichotomy itself defines another four temperament group known as the Interaction Styles. Those are the more familiar surface social behaviors, where types like INTJ are slower to act. However, I types like this that are pragmatic will still nevertheless have some "extroverted" or expressive streak in there somewhere. They will be quick to act or approach people in certain instances, despite their introversion. This has been discussed regarding the ISFP as well.
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    Well although I'm an introvert, the more time I spend with others, the more I'm energized. This goes up to a certain point however, maybe 5 hours or so.

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