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    Look for some form of sensotardation. Most N types have their classic sensotard habits. Ne types forget meals, and meetings and stuff and get distracted too much and tune out from their surroundings. Ni types have some hilarious air head moments when they just miss things in the external world completely, it's sort of cute unless you are in the car with them when they are driving . If you can spot sensotardation they are an N. S types can still be quite messy and stuff, so you can't judge it on how they act on their senses, just that they don't do the clumsy stuff we do, and normally laugh in less of an "I do that too!" way when Ns do them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    Look for some form of sensotardation. Most N types have their classic sensotard habits. Ne types forget meals, and meetings and stuff and get distracted too much and tune out from their surroundings. Ni types have some hilarious air head moments when they just miss things in the external world completely, it's sort of cute unless you are in the car with them when they are driving . If you can spot sensotardation they are an N. S types can still be quite messy and stuff, so you can't judge it on how they act on their senses, just that they don't do the clumsy stuff we do, and normally laugh in less of an "I do that too!" way when Ns do them.
    I generally agree except that ENXJs usaully seem pretty "together"... might look like sensors based on your criteria.

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    Yeh, the J and E combo seems like it could counter sensotardation well.

    I still don't know what an ENFJ and ESFJ look like. Or an ENTJ for that matter. I probably know some of them and am unaware .
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    According to the cognitive functions survey (can't find the link) the following are indicators:

    Si:
    Notice whether the details in front of you match what you are accustomed to.
    Compare an experience against a storehouse of familiar experiences to find what's reliable.
    Review a lot of information over time to confirm what is customary or standard.
    Fulfill the same regular work or activity everyday at a comfortable pace.

    Ni:
    Experience a premonition or foresee the distant future.
    Achieve a metamorphosis, definitive insight, or powerful vision of change.
    Feel attracted to the symbolic, archetypal, or mysterious.
    Transform yourself by focusing inward on a specific way you foresee you will need to be.


    Si - Te: Follows steps to ensure tasks are predictable and completed correctly.


    Si - Fe: Points out discrepancies between how things are and the way they have always been.


    Ni - Fe: Gains a profound realization from a mystical state or sudden release of emotions.


    Ni - Te: Pushes their mental limits to complete an array of innovative achievements.


    Te - Si: Sticks to making decisions based on impersonal measures such as points earned.


    Fe - Si: Recognizes and usually adheres to shared values, feelings, and social norms to get along.


    Fe - Ni: Merges and feels intimate oneness with other people.


    Te - Ni: Conceives of a comprehensive plan to maximize progress toward multiple goals at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    By melancholy, I meant sad, dreamy look in the eyes, I wasn't talking about temperament.
    But there is a point that those for whom Ni is dominant will be Chart the Course types, which is a kind of "melancholy" temperament. (SJ is another kind, but the Interaction Style will be more obvious on the surface)

    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon Candle View Post
    I generally agree except that ENXJs usaully seem pretty "together"... might look like sensors based on your criteria.
    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    Yeh, the J and E combo seems like it could counter sensotardation well.

    I still don't know what an ENFJ and ESFJ look like. Or an ENTJ for that matter. I probably know some of them and am unaware .
    Also note, that the ENJs' tertiary Se will also make them look like Sensors. In fact, the tertiary position is also known as "inflated".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    But there is a point that those for whom Ni is dominant will be Chart the Course types, which is a kind of "melancholy" temperament. (SJ is another kind, but the Interaction Style will be more obvious on the surface)
    I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TEMPERAMENT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    Look for some form of sensotardation. Most N types have their classic sensotard habits. Ne types forget meals, and meetings and stuff and get distracted too much and tune out from their surroundings. Ni types have some hilarious air head moments when they just miss things in the external world completely, it's sort of cute unless you are in the car with them when they are driving . If you can spot sensotardation they are an N. S types can still be quite messy and stuff, so you can't judge it on how they act on their senses, just that they don't do the clumsy stuff we do, and normally laugh in less of an "I do that too!" way when Ns do them.
    I see stuff like this written on this board all the time, and many N's seem to relate, so there must be something to it.

    However, personally I've never really related to it, so that at times in comparison to those on this board, I've thought maybe I'm 'more S' than they. I don't feel that I'm overly forgetful or miss things, I'm pretty aware of my surroundings, and I don't bump into things as I walk...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TEMPERAMENT!!!
    I know, but I'm just showing how it does partly correspond!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    I know, but I'm just showing how it does partly correspond!
    Uh..comment wasn't directed at you at all! I was just speaking generally. But thanks for reminding me to chill. Cause, you know, I was getting pretty worked up about it. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascademn View Post
    I see stuff like this written on this board all the time, and many N's seem to relate, so there must be something to it.

    However, personally I've never really related to it, so that at times in comparison to those on this board, I've thought maybe I'm 'more S' than they. I don't feel that I'm overly forgetful or miss things, I'm pretty aware of my surroundings, and I don't bump into things as I walk...
    It's not a regular thing. More an occasional one. But if you don't do it at all, you might be an S, or not quite get what it equates to.

    It would be quite unusual for an INFJ to be non-sensotarded. Because to do it you would need to constantly focus on just the details and ignore the intuition and feeling; almost annul the INFJness. Your mind should have better places to wander than perfecting detail and existence in the here and now.
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