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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    who's going to be the inspector then?
    No, I don't know... no facts are new anyway, so there is really nothing to discover on behalf of mankind. But peeling away the layers of what already exist is lots of fun and new and different for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    who's going to be the inspector then?
    I was going to say ISTPs, but Ti does really match analyzer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bella View Post
    No, I don't know... no facts are new anyway, so there is really nothing to discover on behalf of mankind. But peeling away the layers of what already exist is lots of fun and new and different for everyone.
    Inspecting refers to uncovering facts and details which are merely unknown to some, not treading new ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Inspecting refers to uncovering facts and details which are merely unknown to some, not treading new ground.
    You're pretty good with analyzing the words. Can you do composer producer for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    You're pretty good with analyzing the words. Can you do composer producer for me?
    I don't think I know what producer is supposed to mean here.

    Composer would be fabricator of that which is pleasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arilee View Post
    Sounds a bit like the theory behind Johari Wondow...

    Wikipedia link
    Berens/Nardi actually use the Johari window in their theory.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arilee View Post
    As ESTP I can actually see both descriptors in my personality...

    (although I wonder which definition of "executor"they mean )

    In case it may well be that I have tried to learn a lot about the strenghts and weaknesses of my type so I am able to recognise the descriptors.
    Which is exactly what I think they may be trying to convey. I know with Operator, I was using the word in the sense of mechanical however Operator has a different denotation and can mean managing an enterprise or industrial establishment or someone dealing in trades. Based on that, I can see that somewhat in myself but it’s latent and I have to muster energy.

    One of the things that I have asked on another forum in particularly with ESTP and extraverted types in general is if they see the latter word and are blind to the first. Based on some ESTPs self descriptions here, they do seem to see the Promoter first. I highlighted your statement which is indicative of whether you truly see you self as an “executor” which means:
    ex?ec?u?tor? ?/?g?z?ky?t?r or, for 1, ??ks??kyut?r/ [ig-zek-yuh-ter or, for 1, ek-si-kyoo-ter] –noun

    1. a person who executes, carries out, or performs some duty, job, assignment, artistic work, etc.
    2. Law. a person named in a decedent's will to carry out the provisions of that will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I don't think I know what producer is supposed to mean here.

    Composer would be fabricator of that which is pleasing.
    Producer would then be
    To unfold that which is pleasing ?

    I think it has something to do with this meaning of produce.
    Main Entry: produce
    Definition: demonstrate, show

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    Quote Originally Posted by "?" View Post

    One of the things that I have asked on another forum in particularly with ESTP and extraverted types in general is if they see the latter word and are blind to the first. Based on some ESTPs self descriptions here, they do seem to see the Promoter first. I highlighted your statement which is indicative of whether you truly see you self as an “executor” which means:
    I do see the definitions of executor that you posted, I am usually good at getting things started - I'm not the worlds best at finishing jobs though.

    I would say i can see the promoter part more clearly than executor though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arilee View Post
    I do see the definitions of executor that you posted, I am usually good at getting things started - I'm not the worlds best at finishing jobs though.

    I would say i can see the promoter part more clearly than executor though.
    Which is what the theory behind using the two word titles proposes. As said, I easily see the Analyzer within myself however I am not always conscious of the Operator unless sometimes pointed out by others. Nevertheless it was my limited defining of Operator that prevented me from seeing the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raz1337 View Post
    I'm sure each word is referring to the dominant and auxiliary processes, and how they manifest in your specific type.
    Does anyone know if this is how they came up with them?

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