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Number One

wildcat

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Is this where the term "straw man" comes from ? Or at least "Wicker Man" ? "Children of the Wheat" ?
Exactly.

It is not about gender.
Read the Woman of Straw.
Or see the movie.

What is a dichotomy?
Nothing.

Unless it has an outside agent.

The linguists confuse the concept with the meaning.
Only involvement is participation.
 
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I thought ENTJ amounts to choleric and intensive.
1 w2. Interesting.

Yeah, the description of Ones here especially resonates with me. Although, Eight seems like a good fit, too. Not quite sure.


It's very interesting to see the correlations between the different typology systems through this thread. It's clear that one system can't provide the entire picture.
 

miss fortune

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The shrink tests you.
She does not bother to ask your estimation.
Of yourself.

Maybe she is in the wrong :smile:


Are you

sanguine
choleric
melancholic
or phlegmatic

intensive
expansive
stable
or
sensitive

in your own estimation.

State the following:

Enneagram only if you have it.
Function order only if you bother.
MBTI

The shrink may see what you don't, as you are too close. You will see what she can't. The only benefit of the shrink is an outside perspective- and drugs if that's your thing. :)

Enneagram 7w8, sp/so

ENTP- Ne, Ti, Se, Te, Ni, Si, Fe, Fi

The borderline between Choleric and Sanguine, though I fear leaning a bit towards Choleric- I could possibly deal with being a bit more sane :doh:

Expansive would work the best on that list- the worst would be sensitive, which is something that I lack, realize it and try, but fail miserably :blush:
 

FDG

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I think a socionics ENTj can easily be a 7. Not sure though about the MBTI descriptions.
 

wildcat

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Yeah, the description of Ones here especially resonates with me. Although, Eight seems like a good fit, too. Not quite sure.


It's very interesting to see the correlations between the different typology systems through this thread. It's clear that one system can't provide the entire picture.
Quite correct. MBTI is not the entire picture.
How does temperament (or character) correlate the functions?

Thanks for the link.
 

01011010

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5w4 sp/sx
Ni, Te, Fi
INTJ

I can't answer the other questions. I have no idea what it's referring to.
 

ThatsWhatHeSaid

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Are you

sanguine
choleric
melancholic
or phlegmatic

Depends on a lot of factor. Right now, melancholic.

intensive
expansive
stable
or
sensitive

Sensitive.

Enneagram only if you have it.

No idea.

Function order [& MBTI] only if you bother.

I have no idea. This also changes. Here's what it might look like based on age.

1-22 - xNTP: Ne/Ti, Fe
22-23 - INxP: Fi/Fe/Ti, Ne
23-27 - ENTP - Ne, Ti
28 - xNxP - Fi/Ne, Ti/Ni/Fe
 

wildcat

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The shrink may see what you don't, as you are too close. You will see what she can't. The only benefit of the shrink is an outside perspective- and drugs if that's your thing. :)

Enneagram 7w8, sp/so

ENTP- Ne, Ti, Se, Te, Ni, Si, Fe, Fi

The borderline between Choleric and Sanguine, though I fear leaning a bit towards Choleric- I could possibly deal with being a bit more sane :doh:

Expansive would work the best on that list- the worst would be sensitive, which is something that I lack, realize it and try, but fail miserably :blush:
This it is exactly.

Blindness goes two ways.
No dichotomy there.

A dichotomy is undivided. It does not add.
It is about girls and dolls.
Correspondence is an inclusive measure.
A catalyst is an outside agent.

Only number one parts.
Two does not part.
It is parted already.

You have an interesting function order.
There is a dichotomy inside of a dichotomy. A complex and a rare pattern.


It is quite all right to peddle drugs under a licence.
The streets are beyond authority control.
Authority is jealous of what it cannot control.
Jealousy is not about moral. It is about power.
Caesar is naked.
 

The Pascuzzi

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phlegmatic (therefore, stable? i don't understand how determine this)
1bw so
Ni Te Fi Se Ne Ti Fe Si
INTJ
 
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garbage

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How does temperament (or character) correlate the functions?

There's definitely a many-to-many relationship between the different classification systems. So, one's MBTI alone won't tell you their exact Enneagram type, nor vice versa, though some MBTI types will be more prone to some certain Enneagram types.

Here's a page that correlates Enneagram with MBTI. Even then, there are differing perceptions on how they correlate. Some do try for a one-to-many Enneagram-to-MBTI correlation, but that's probably just an attempt to streamline the "conversion" process from MBTI to Enneagram.
 

Thursday

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Inside stormy weather?
Is that typical of the INFP?

We have equal post count.


I'd say so - just look at trent reznor or tori amos
talk about thursday's on the inside
 

wildcat

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Depends on a lot of factor. Right now, melancholic.



Sensitive.



No idea.



I have no idea. This also changes. Here's what it might look like based on age.

1-22 - xNTP: Ne/Ti, Fe
22-23 - INxP: Fi/Fe/Ti, Ne
23-27 - ENTP - Ne, Ti
28 - xNxP - Fi/Ne, Ti/Ni/Fe
Looks like Kuranes.
 

wildcat

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phlegmatic (therefore, stable? i don't understand how determine this)
1bw so
Ni Te Fi Se Ne Ti Fe Si
INTJ
Yes, phlegmatic is stable.

That is your function order according to the test? How very odd.
 

Thursday

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?

Could you elaborate a twinkle ..

for artists/songwriters such as these,
" its the only way i know how to express it " - Tori Amos

if you analyze their lyrics, or simply listen to them in cadence with the music, its tempestuous-especially the sublte or soft songs.
its the butter rising to the top, but only after some real effort and churning do you get the pulpy and intense Fi.

For me, this is especially true. While i appear extremely cold, my tone and fervor when in action are unmistakeably "emotional"
 
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