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    Lex Parsimoniae Xander's Avatar
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    Default If IP is EJ then is IP IP or can it be IJ?

    J and P refer to extraverted activity right? Does it then necessarily follow that the opposite is true of introverted behaviour?
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What?
    IPs are EJs in that we both have judging first. Similarities like assessing a piece of information before we include it in our musings etc.

    What I'm wondering is whether the opposite is always true. If J and P refer to extraversion solely then is there a possibility of two subtypes of each type?
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    It's no wonder you think house is a J.

    What the fuck are you talking about?

    Also, you spelt behavior wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    IPs are EJs in that we both have judging first.
    I got you here, but everything else leaves me asking questions for one reason or another. I think you just phrased your questions really strangely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    It's no wonder you think house is a J.

    What the fuck are you talking about?

    Also, you spelt behavior wrong.
    Colonial

    ENTJ Te Ni
    INTP Ti Ne

    Judging first.

    ENTP Ne Ti
    INTJ Ni Te

    Perceiving first.

    That's just function order though. I'm wondering firstly if there is introverted J & P and if so is it necessarily to opposite of the extraverted one or should there in fact be a split in the types?

    It's further thinking on the differences within types and how it can be categorised better.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I got you here, but everything else leaves me asking questions for one reason or another. I think you just phrased your questions really strangely.
    Strangely? Me? Nah... it's definitely you lot. Yeah you... the rest of humanity. You're weird.

    Okay a cut down version is "Is there a J/P descriptor for introverted behaviour?"

    Edit :
    I should expand really... I've noted before that Js display less internal consistency than Ps yet their external consistency is beyond question. Almost like they allow internal processes a lot more slack, more so than Ps. I've not compiled a study or anything but it doesn't seem a reliable result. I've seen it go the other way as well, hence the question as to whether this could be a subtype and whether it's a useful observation or not.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    I'm not really sure I understand your question, but yeah, the p and j indicate if your primary extraverted function is a perceiving one (s or n) or a judging one (t or f). For example, an INFJ's dominant function is a perceiving or irrational function (Ni), as is the ENFP's (Ne). However, the INFJs primary extraverted function is feeling, which is a judging or rational function, hence the j. And the P in ENFP comes since it's primary funtion (intuition) is extraverted.

    Did I completely misunderstand your question? If so could you explain a little?

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    No, I was making a point.
    You don't know what you're talking about.
    I don't even know how to correct it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    No, I was making a point.
    You don't know what you're talking about.
    I don't even know how to correct it.
    My thinking may be flipped, that is true but I'm not falling that far from the tree it's just you can see why I jumped in the first place. No need for arguments.

    Oh and the was because you corrected my English. I'm not American bucko
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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