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    Sometimes your thoughts and opinions on things don't initially comply, or at least interpretation doesn't. Diverging debates and arguments. Happens to every one. sometimes you're coherent sometimes you're not, In my case its the luck of the draw.
    My cold, snide, intellectual life is just a veneer, behind which lies the plywood of loneliness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    Sometimes your thoughts and opinions on things don't initially comply, or at least interpretation doesn't. Diverging debates and arguments. Happens to every one. sometimes you're coherent sometimes you're not, In my case its the luck of the draw.
    Don't you EVER accuse me of being sometimes coherent again.

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    If you are in fact serious you can replace those "you're"s with "your". If that's any consolation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    If you are in fact serious you can replace those "you're"s with "your". If that's any consolation.
    Was this post supposed to go in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Don't you EVER accuse me of being sometimes coherent again.
    would generally incoherent be a more proper phrasing, Mr. Flack?
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    My typing and sense making skills seem to be failing me tonight. Disregard it.

    So anyways... 3 and 4. Cool numbers huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    would generally incoherent be a more proper phrasing, Mr. Flack?
    You could spell my fuckin' name right, for starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    You could spell my fuckin' name right, for starters.
    many appologies that you're not in my thoughts often enough for me to spell your name correctly, Jack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I agree with the existance of the 8 functions- because an F or T, for instance, is too flat and one dimensional to describe the difference between types. I don't, however, beleive in the rigidity of the origional system. The first two of the 8 functions are what matters in determining your type, after that, the functions don't necissarily occur in the specified order- and this is how people of the same type can be quite different.

    For instance- Ne/Ti makes me an ENTP, even though the next function is Se instead of the "correct" function of Fe. The idea that we are defined by 4 functions alone seems rather silly.

    I'm not discounting functions alltogether, but I think that a person can definitley have different tertiary and inferior functions than were origionally prescribed.
    This theory would finally be the first theory that would justify the Fi for me in the third place.

    I am just so afraid to change anything in MBTI, because I lack the experience with those psychological BS.

    There are a lot of psychological analysis out in the internet right know about the special types and I bet there is less than 0% of the types who read their profile and can absolutely agree with it.

    Therefore MBTI absolutely needs to be improved. It needs more room for personalization. But dont ask me how to do that. If you need a machine by the way, who automatically opens beer cans for you, I just might now the right person to make it COOOOOOOOME true

    So, I am out for tonite, see you tomorrow

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    To OP: I've thought of them as very unreliable, not much more persistent than what you'd have by random chance. There might be some weak statistical correlation between function #1 and functions #3-#8, but it must be really weak. It bothers me some to hear people speak confidently of "your third function", "your fourth", etc..

    I use the standard model too, sometimes, even though I don't trust it. I'm inviting for people to bring evidence on it.

    I just ignore most of what people tell about functions #3-8 per standard model.
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