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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    (Se) -- 38
    (Si) .-- 23.6
    (Ne) -- 17.7
    (Ni) .-- 40.9
    (Te) -- 42.1
    (Ti) .-- 28.8
    (Fe) -- 13.4
    (Fi) .-- 35.9

    Te Ni Se Fi (Ti Si Ne Fe)

    Interesting.
    yeah, that would normaly indicate ENTJ wrather than INTJ...
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    So we have all the INs (a triple fps) and one IS (fj). Very nice.
    All strikingly interesting patterns.

    Let us find the model.
    Let the pattern shape itself. It is not good to meddle.

    What did we find in the patterns? Semi opposites and opposites. They were not perfectly in order, as should be expected. But the endeavour is evident.
    The pattern always tries to find itself. And with different people the pattern is of a different order. Completely of different order? No. They are all a part of the same pattern. They are subpatterns, and their number is strictly limited.

    Semi opposites linked in a system of opposition.

    Let us start with INFP (for an evident reason).

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    We are on the lookout for opposites and semi opposites.

    Table a

    INFP INTP INTJ

    ISFP ISTP ISTJ

    ESFP ESTP ESTJ

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    This is an INFP table.
    You see the ISTP in the middle? The semi opposite of two pairs of opposites and of another two pairs of semi opposites?

    This is a blind man game. You see, we left something out to make a valid point.

    What is the place of the ISTP in the order of function units? ISTP is Si Te.
    There are four function units in a continuum of 8 functions. But here we have only three in an eightfold package.

    We start with INFP=the standpoint of INFP. We cross the field and we move directly towards ESTJ which is the opposite type.
    We find Ti Se in the middle.

    Is Ti Se the second or the third function unit from the standpoint of Fi Ne (=INFP)? Let us not answer yet.

    The opposite type ESTJ provides the answer. When the ESTJ crosses the field moving directly toward the opposite type INFP, does it find Ti Se as the second or third function unit?
    Wrong question. Ti Se is not there any more.

    Now you claim: But I see it standing there in the middle!
    No. You see nothing.

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    Say we step on a train in Bremen. We sit down on the first carriage on the right side of the aisle. The train has a placard on it. The placard reads A. The first stop is in Hamburg. The second stop is in Luebeck. We look keenly as we arrive in Travemunde.

    In Travemunde we stand on the platform and see a chap turn the placard. Now it reads B. We go back into the train. We sit down on the first carriage on the right side of the aisle. The train starts. We look out of the window and see an unknown Travemunde. The second station (first stop) of the train B is the third station (second stop) of the train A.

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    But MBTI is a lot more complicated than that. In the table a we have eight trains. It is only one table of many. And a number of vanishing stations in between. And then we have a number of new stations. The new stations curiously resemble the vanished stations.

    We are on the lookout for opposites and semi opposites.

    Table a

    Fi Ne Ti Ne Ni Te

    Fi Se Ti Se Si Te

    Se Fi Se Ti ESTJ

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    Here we see that Ti Se is the third function unit= 5th and 6th function respectively. Of INFP (Fi Ne).
    Where is the second function unit? An interesting question no doubt.

    It seems someone took it away.
    Or maybe not.

    Even if we do not see it we do have the third unit: hence we have the second. Eight tracks is 9 stations.
    We have also a multiple of other ways to find the second unit if we bother to look at the table a as a unity.

    What comes around goes around. A used parable, but an applicable one.
    The Sun sets also in the Pacific.
    Greenwich is but an agreement.
    The clock never stops.

    What do we find beyond the pale?

    We are not there yet. The ESTJ crosses the field to reach INFP /Fi Ne.
    Fi Ne?
    But this is the table a.

    Does the onlooker affect the thing looked upon?

    We are conditioned. Our culture teaches us to believe in the Greenwich doctrine, as it teaches us to see and "right" from left to right.

    The opposite direction is not the opposite of the opposite direction.
    What turns around, turns around by itself.
    We do not need to push it.
    We do not need to do a thing about anything.

    What takes place when we stop the clock? We see the other clock.
    The illusion is not the other clock.
    The illusion is the idea that the clock stops.
    It does not stop. We have stopped.

    The definition of zero is not a void.





    3rd=Ti Se=2nd=Ni Fe.

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    Wildcat, you need to cut back on the fortune cookies.

    Edit: Allow your analysis some extrusion. Just a little.

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    E deals with the environment.
    I is hidden.

    In each function unit.

    The succesion of the unit has no relevance.

    Is the definition of the place the of zero objective?

    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    Wildcat, you need to cut back on the fortune cookies.

    Edit: Allow your analysis some extrusion. Just a little.
    Extrusion is not about the object.
    It is about the subject.

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