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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    This is you Jen... Note that everything else is in pairs. In most cases the ordering is extremely close together - you have 4 traits between Ti and Te! That's unusual on the test.
    Ah, I see what you mean now.

    There are a couple others that have one trait that is gapped, but athenian200 is at the extremes.
    This could have been just a bad testing, but Ath is definitely also another "atypical" MBTI'er (from the conversations we have had via PM), as far as I can tell. So I don't know for sure how the results have been flupped.

    have to rush home, so I will have to skip the rest of the fun, except this:

    How do you determine Ti or Te. It isn't based on the strength of T - therefore, in theory, the strength of the J/P would determine the strength of Ti over Te. Therefore, in theory, Fi and Fe and so on should be equally divergent.
    I have a very big struggle with using Te. It's like I can look at something and intellectually understand it (I understand all the principles of task management), but actually breaking it down into components and then DOING it? It's not even a choice to not follow my checklist, I actually have a lot of trouble getting things into compartments and sticking to task (!)

    Everything is so... internalized... with me...

    Just like I can follow your posts easily enough, but thinking in terms of the equations and details just... slips out of my mind like water out of a leaky bucket. I have trouble thinking in those sorts of concrete specifics, I do much better with the internalized (non-concrete) concepts and nuances.
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    Well, whatever type I am, I really don't like Se and Te very much. That might be more important than the types that tested strong. So, to recap:

    Ti, Si, and Fi were all near equal in strength.

    Fe and Ne were near equal in strength as well.

    Ni was almost as good as Fe and Ne. (But it's supposed to be my dominant!?!)

    Te and Se were at the rock bottom.

    The biggest problems I see with this are the following:

    I don't really see myself as using very much Ti. In fact, I think most INTP's and ISTP's would see quite a few holes in my logic, and probably find me insipid. And, I only use logic as a way of showing the value of what I consider important, not as it's own end.

    Also, I don't see myself as using much Ne. In fact, Ne-dominants irritate me with their obsessive search for novelty and their random behavior.

    So if I go with Si and Fe, that would make me an ISFJ. But I seem to have good intuitive perception, and both my N-functions are reasonably strong. I'm just a mess. According to that test, I could reasonably be one of three types:

    INFP (Auxiliary Ne, Dominant Fi)
    ISFJ (Auxiliary Fe, Dominant Si)
    INTP (Auxiliary Ne, Dominant Ti)

    And I was sure I was an INFJ... Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    In fact, I think most INTP's and ISTP's would see quite a few holes in my logic, and probably find me insipid.
    I should mention that type does not denote talent - I personally find that xNTPs, in particular, generally lack critical thinking skills (such as logic) when compared to the IxTJs or ISTPs.

    But I have no idea what you are According to that type, you have three dominant internal processes. That's crazy talk

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    But I have no idea what you are According to that type, you have three dominant internal processes. That's crazy talk
    Three down, 197 to go!
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    Fi, Ne, Ni always my top three. After that is always a thinking function then the rest.

    extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************** (20)
    limited use
    introverted Sensing (Si) ******************** (20.8)
    limited use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************** (38.3)
    excellent use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) *************************************** (39.1)
    excellent use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************** (23)
    limited use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) ***************************** (29.2)
    average use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) **************************** (28.9)
    average use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************************** (40.1)
    excellent use
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    I thank everyone for participation.
    You have added to the confusion.
    Good.

    We have to add to the confusion and not avoid it. Then we know what is wrong.

    Imagine you are looking at a screen. It is empty.
    Is the picture the screen? No.

    What is a screen?

    Before there is a picture in it, it is void.
    Is it completely void?
    As far as it does not have the picture in it.

    Is it completely void?

    No.
    It is an object in space.

    Hence the screen is bound by loci.

    Is the picture on the screen bound by loci?
    No.

    What we have to do to understand spatial logic?
    We have to separate the picture from the screen.

    Why this is so hard to understand?
    Because our environment stifles our understanding.

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    How did von Braun have the man in the moon?
    He separated the screen from the picture.

    We have to stop a clock to see the other clock.

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    Ever directed a play?

    Is the play the set of the play?
    Does the play take room outside of the set?
    Do you remove the set in the middle of the act?

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    I have a great admiration for ptgatsby. His posts are a delight to read.
    He has a sharp mind and he presents an interesting outlook on things.

    I had an ESTJ history professor. Te was his primary function.
    His logic was extraordinary. He could have made a good staff officer in the army.

    His dictum was fair play. He was polite, cultured, extremely proficient and well read.
    I wished I could have had him as my history tutor.
    Unfortunately my history tutor was an ESFJ.

    At school I had two history teachers. One was an ENTJ and the other was an ISFJ.
    The ENTJ gave me A+ and the ISFJ gave me B- .. invariably.

    The grades are about the object seen by the subject.

    Evaluation is inescapably field dependent.

    The study of psychology is hindered by the psychology of the student.

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    extraverted Sensing (Se) ***************** (17.6)
    limited use
    introverted Sensing (Si) ************************************************** ** (52.1)
    excellent use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) **************** (16.3)
    limited use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ***************** (17.3)
    limited use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ****************************** (30.6)
    good use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) ***************** (17.9)
    limited use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) **************************************** (40.8)
    excellent use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ********************************************** (47)
    excellent use


    Si Fi Fe Te Ti Se Ni Ne

    (Last year the order of the first three was Si Fe Fi )

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    (Se) -- 38
    (Si) .-- 23.6
    (Ne) -- 17.7
    (Ni) .-- 40.9
    (Te) -- 42.1
    (Ti) .-- 28.8
    (Fe) -- 13.4
    (Fi) .-- 35.9

    Te Ni Se Fi (Ti Si Ne Fe)

    Interesting.

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