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    Question Intellectual Laziness...

    Okay, I admit...

    I'm lazy. And not just around the house but intellectually lazy.

    I've realized lately what a fraud I am. I graduated with honors in college, and I quickly "rose to the top" in my past corporate career (thank god, that's over)!.

    But it's not because I can "think".

    It's because I know how to sort through information and find that which is necessary for me to succeed. And I rely heavily on this talent.

    I honestly don't care how most things work. I just want to know how to apply the key points to my situation. I want an outline to follow. Tell me the grammatical rules ("i before e except after c", comma splices, etc.), and I'll follow them to a "t", but tell me the parts of a sentence (prepositions and all that mumbo jumbo), and you'll lose me. It's just not relevant to me.

    In school, I memorized only what I needed to know in order to ace the test. I can honestly say that I've probably only retained 10% or less of what I "learned" in college. That's the problem...I didn't really learn much of anything. I memorized.

    What's interesting, though, is that I'm great at troubleshooting and clarifying. And I think I overuse my critical thinking skills. I'm quite the "killjoy" in my family.

    So...

    Help me out here. What personality temperaments/types and/or cognitive processes are at play (or absent) in my situation?

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    Sounds like Te over Ti to me. Te as a backup process.

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    I would say S and F are at play there.

    The figuring out relevant parts of data and being highly proficient at it screams S to me. I am absolutely horrendous at figuring out just the necessary data to go by, In trouble shooting I'm much more apt to completely use whatever random process or concept my mind chooses to access. I don't do procedural concepts. I go from concepts and then move forward in terms of thinking of the procedure, I have no sense of templates when it comes to procedures.

    Understanding the inner workings of something is something that T's grasp subconsciously and almost effortlessly, I would even say thats one thing that I've never had to study and it allows me to skim or read over and still maintain the logistics of things even though I couldn't formally reproduce the steps in a thoroughly meticulous manner. ST's are excellent at that sort of thing and make phenomenal mechanical engineers because of it.

    Te by the standard definition is similar to what you described just partitioning out and remembering just the necessary steps to solve the problem, it doesn't access a vast system at all times for each thing. It only externalizes what is necessary for the problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by beyondaurora View Post
    Okay, I admit...

    I'm lazy. And not just around the house but intellectually lazy.

    I've realized lately what a fraud I am. I graduated with honors in college, and I quickly "rose to the top" in my past corporate career (thank god, that's over)!.

    But it's not because I can "think".

    It's because I know how to sort through information and find that which is necessary for me to succeed. And I rely heavily on this talent.
    Sounds like you are a little bitch who is longing for some slapping on the ass.

    Quote Originally Posted by beyondaurora View Post

    I honestly don't care how most things work. I just want to know how to apply the key points to my situation. I want an outline to follow. Tell me the grammatical rules ("i before e except after c", comma splices, etc.), and I'll follow them to a "t", but tell me the parts of a sentence (prepositions and all that mumbo jumbo), and you'll lose me. It's just not relevant to me.

    In school, I memorized only what I needed to know in order to ace the test. I can honestly say that I've probably only retained 10% or less of what I "learned" in college. That's the problem...I didn't really learn much of anything. I memorized.

    What's interesting, though, is that I'm great at troubleshooting and clarifying. And I think I overuse my critical thinking skills. I'm quite the "killjoy" in my family.

    So...

    Sounds like you are growing up. I am sorry but this WILL take a long long time.

    But I am really offended by you saying that you do not want to know how most things work
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    I used to be very intellectually curious. But now, for some reason, I can't bring myself to be curious about anything. For some reason, I'm getting tired of thinking. I'm getting tired of feeling. I'm getting tired of intuiting and sensing.

    That's a real puzzler, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    I used to be very intellectually curious. But now, for some reason, I can't bring myself to be curious about anything. For some reason, I'm getting tired of thinking. I'm getting tired of feeling. I'm getting tired of intuiting and sensing.

    That's a real puzzler, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    If you get tired of living, I am gonna kill you
    I think he's more likely to take some people out before killing himself. I think you just made yourself one of the lucky ones.
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    I'm like that too, all through Uni getting good grades had more to do with figuring out the formula that the markers wanted and then memorising the core of what was necessary and applying that formula than anything else.

    I don't see it as lazy, it's a talent in its own right.

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    That's yet to be seen, I am up for taking some people out before I go myself. Dont you remember, I am german
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