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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    According to Quenk, the shadow function is the eruption of the inferior.
    That was my understanding too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    I use this method also, in conjunction with other methods.
    I agree that what a person lacks is just as helpful in assessing their type.
    Has it been developed/formalized anywhere do you know? I haven't read about it outside of Jung.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Funny cause it's true?

    Don't make me come over there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Don't make me come over there!
    Yeah you might learn too much about how to make tea properly and instant coffee and stuff. Don't want to mess with your cultural growth.




    Btw, do you use functions to type or dichotomies?
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Has it been developed/formalized anywhere do you know? I haven't read about it outside of Jung.
    No, Luv, I don't know.
    I just adopted it because that's what comes naturally to me.
    Every now and then, a person will be quite negative toward themselves
    and I have to use that method with them.
    Also, some people are too modest to acknowledge their positive traits.
    ISFJs are notorious for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Yeah you might learn too much about how to make tea properly and instant coffee and stuff. Don't want to mess with your cultural growth.




    Btw, do you use functions to type or dichotomies?
    I use the dichotomies because I had never heard of the functions until I came here a year ago and I don't understand them well enough to use them as a tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    No, Luv, I don't know.
    I just adopted it because that's what comes naturally to me.
    Every now and then, a person will be quite negative toward themselves
    and I have to use that method with them.
    Also, some people are too modest to acknowledge their positive traits.
    ISFJs are notorious for this.
    Oh that's one type I almost never type by positives. The negatives are usually quite pronounced.
    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    I use the dichotomies because I had never heard of the functions until I came here a year ago and I don't understand them well enough to use them as a tool.
    Well after having read up on them numerous times I'm still of the opinion that there's not enough clarity between two functions of the same side of a dichotomy (like Ti and Te) to be of real use.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Funny I look at the lack of a specific function rather than dichotomy. For strengths I type using dichotomies.

    About the difference between the introverted and extroverted side of the function, the distinction between some of them like Ni, Ne is fuzzy in my mind because I often use both. I think Ni comes more readily to me than Ne.

    Ni I just ask myself the question "What is.." What is the truth, what is the link, what does it mean? Using Ne is sort of backwards in a way. Mine tend towards visual input. If I unfocus my attention, then ideas come to me. You can say I direct its use by not pointing it in a specific direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    Funny I look at the lack of a specific function rather than dichotomy. For strengths I type using dichotomies.

    About the difference between the introverted and extroverted side of the function, the distinction between some of them like Ni, Ne is fuzzy in my mind because I often use both. I think Ni comes more readily to me than Ne.

    Ni I just ask myself the question "What is.." What is the truth, what is the link, what does it mean? Using Ne is sort of backwards in a way. Mine tend towards visual input. If I unfocus my attention, then ideas come to me. You can say I direct its use by not pointing it in a specific direction.
    Surely though if it's Yx then x is just the arena in which it is applied is it not?
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Surely though if it's Yx then x is just the arena in which it is applied is it not?
    You would think so... Ti is logic applied inside to understand and Te is logic applied outside to problem solve. Just like Fi is self values and Fe is shared social values. But that's just what they are on the surface. Ti is not the same as Te. INTP will examine an idea in depth for understanding, the Te dominant ENTJ ought to explore all external options to understand each one. They do that, but only to the degree necessary to making a decision. They're not equal mirrors. Or is that J/P getting in the way? But then again what is J/P? The link between Yx and J/P is inherent but their relationship isn't obvious.

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