John and Linda

[wildcat]

Okay.
The time has come.
It always does.

I say this now.


ESFJ is not Fe + Si + Ne +Ti
INTP is not Ti + Ne + Si + Fe
ISFP is not Fi + Se + Ni + Te

Red is not green. It is the complement of green.
What is a complement?

Thesis is but the other side of an antithesis.
What is the other side?

The ground has to be set aright before you build a house.
Even in Coffeetopia. Or wherever.

Of course you have the right to say whatever you see fit.
John and Linda are wonderful people. I am sure they love their dog, and they walk their cat.

 

[Bella]

Are you saying something or asking something?

 

[wildcat]

Are you saying something or asking something?

To ask is to say.

 

[Bella]

To ask is to say.

Well, there goes my only clue. Darn.

 

[Haphazard]

I feel as if I've just been handed an ice cream koan.

 

[Bella]

Why? Do you understand wildcat?

 

[Haphazard]

Why? Do you understand wildcat?

There is naught here but a cat toying with mice.

 

[wildcat]

Well, there goes my only clue. Darn.

Sorry. Your third function is the clue.

 

[Bella]

John and Linda are ISTJ's.

 

[wildcat]

John and Linda are ISTJ's.

Are you sure?
You can ask John. Google: evolving the eight function model type insights

Go there and email the chap. If you are interested that is.

He is into the type insights I think. He maybe right there. I do not know.
He is sure wrong in the eight function model, though.
Either that, or then he is interpreted in the wrong way.

I do not know how to contact Linda.

 

[Bella]

Are you sure?
You can ask John. Google: evolving the eight function model type insights

Go there and email the chap. If you are interested that is.

He is into the type insights I think. He maybe right there. I do not know.
He is sure wrong in the eight function model, though.
Either that, or then he is interpreted in the wrong way.

I do not know how to contact Linda.

So that hoopla was about that ^ huh? What a nice mind you have, kitty.

 

[miss fortune]

are the functions merely a foundation?

maybe building blocks upon which we build our personalities- and our personalities tend to complement the functions since the functions are the foundation?


sorry... not all that bright this evening- I have a bit of a headache

 

[wildcat]

So that hoopla was about that ^ huh? What a nice mind you have, kitty.

Thank you.
I started this thread because the function order confusion is still there, as bad as before.
Many members are confused. They find out, quite correctly, that the tertiary is not one of their strong functions.

The ISTJ is represented as a Si Te Fi Ne. It is highly confusing. Yes, you can phrase it that way in the four function model, but then you have to understand what the thing represents. It means simply that your primary functions are Si Te and your inferior functions (= the least developed functions) are Fi Ne.
You cannot use this kind of representation in the eight function model.
It is wrong.

 

[Jack Flak]

Are you getting on my bus, Johnny-Come-Lately?

 

[Bella]

If it's Fi, why isn't it Ni. Who decides this stuff.
Ne is stronger than Ni. As in, you use more intuition or less.

 

[Bella]

I mean you the one means you're more Intuitive.

 

[wildcat]

are the functions merely a foundation?

maybe building blocks upon which we build our personalities- and our personalities tend to complement the functions since the functions are the foundation?


sorry... not all that bright this evening- I have a bit of a headache

Quite right.
Our personalities complement the functions since they are the foundation.
Therefore the order of the eight functions is crucial in the understanding of the individial personality.
The Cognitive Processes Test is accurate in the order, because the test eliminates the order confusion by shaking the cards of the play. The order is created anew, from the basis of what it actually is.

 

[ThatsWhatHeSaid]

Okay.
The time has come.
It always does.

I say this now.


ESFJ is not Fe + Si + Ne +Ti
INTP is not Ti + Ne + Si + Fe
ISFP is not Fi + Se + Ni + Te

Red is not green. It is the complement of green.
What is a complement?

Thesis is but the other side of an antithesis.
What is the other side?

The ground has to be set aright before you build a house.
Even in Coffeetopia. Or wherever.

Of course you have the right to say whatever you see fit.
John and Linda are wonderful people. I am sure they love their dog, and they walk their cat.

To ask is to say.

Sorry. Your third function is the clue.

You know, I know some people enjoy your poetic/koan style, but I personally find it bothersome and a bit pretentious. If you have something to say or to ask, why disguise it in words? I know you're into Zen, but that's really the opposite of a koan. A koan is supposed to make the complex simply, you take the simple and make it needlessly complex. You may have interesting ideas, but I don't have the motivation to sift through the riddles to find them.

Peace.

 

[Jack Flak]

Yeah, at least Victor has the common sense to be awesome.

 

[miss fortune]

Quite right.
Our personalities complement the functions since they are the foundation.
Therefore the order of the eight functions is crucial in the understanding of the individial personality.
The Cognitive Processes Test is accurate in the order, because the test eliminates the order confusion by shaking the cards of the play. The order is created anew, from the basis of what it actually is.

like a sandwich?

the base, the filling and the top... only now you're using a rye instead of wheat for the top slice?