How can a quality become itself if it is already itself?

wildcat · 09-13-2008, 08:53 AM

A valid question posed by athenian.

Initiation is not about the order.
It is about direction.
Order is independent of direction.

Athenian200 · 09-14-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wildcat

A valid question posed by athenian.

Initiation is not about the order.
It is about direction.
Order is independent of direction.

I think I see. Qualities are in some sense dynamic rather than static, always moving in a direction, even if that direction leads it back to where it started. So when you say that it is becoming, you talk about where it is going, not how it is now.

Is that right?

Domino · 09-14-2008, 07:44 PM

Do not all things have a beginning and end? A start and finish?

Jack Flak · 09-14-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PinkPiranha

Do not all things have a beginning and end? A start and finish?

MBTIcVAC: "THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER"

Domino · 09-14-2008, 07:55 PM

HAL? Is that you?

Jack Flak · 09-14-2008, 07:57 PM

Read, if you please, at your earliest convenience: The Last Question -- Isaac Asimov

It might be my favorite work of fiction, period.

wildcat · 09-18-2008, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athenian200

I think I see. Qualities are in some sense dynamic rather than static, always moving in a direction, even if that direction leads it back to where it started. So when you say that it is becoming, you talk about where it is going, not how it is now.

Is that right?

Yes.
Quality is the basic differentiation.
The hand.
The dynamics of space.

Quantity is of space alone.
Distinction is not order.
Direction is back already.

wildcat · 09-18-2008, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkPiranha

Do not all things have a beginning and end? A start and finish?

The subject does not differentiate the object.
The object does differentiate the subject.

The set is the order.
The outset is what it says to be.
Out of the set. Not of the order.

Eldanen · 09-18-2008, 09:02 AM

You are you, and yet you become yourself. Layers within layers, plots within plots.

Bella · 09-18-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Eldanen

You are you, and yet you become yourself. Layers within layers, plots within plots.

Oh lookee! A sentence I can understand! Whoohoo!

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wildcat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Type: INTP Location: Mars Posts: 2,588	How can a quality become itself if it is already itself? A valid question posed by athenian. Initiation is not about the order. It is about direction. Order is independent of direction.

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Eldanen Arcesso pulli gingerios! Join Date: Apr 2007 Type: ENTP Location: USA Posts: 690	You are you, and yet you become yourself. Layers within layers, plots within plots. __________________ Johari Nohari

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