MBTI and drug use.

[Yazoo]

Originally Posted by Noel

I tried mushrooms two years ago and had a life altering experience. For the first time in my life, I stared at the abyss for so long that it stared back at me. I triumphed over it by affirming my life as a creator of value. I would like to try them again in the near future.

This is what I'm driving at when I talk of experimentation (not regular use or dependency) with drugs - I see it as possibly expanding the boundaries of what I see as existence. I would probably try mushrooms and LSD if the opportunity arose.

When you stated that you had a life altering experience, but 'triumphed over it', was that a negative or positive experience?

[Noel]

Originally Posted by Yazoo

This is what I'm driving at when I talk of experimentation (not regular use or dependency) with drugs - I see it as possibly expanding the boundaries of what I see as existence. I would probably try mushrooms and LSD if the opportunity arose.

When you stated that you had a life altering experience, but 'triumphed over it', was that a negative or positive experience?

Very positive experience. People, I feel, can understand the notion of 'when you stare into the abyss long enough, it stares back' in a theoretical sense, like I have, but when physically confronted by it's mentally overwhelming. Initially it was terrifying to say the least; I felt sorrow as well as defeat. Yet I recalled values that I held as virtuous and worthy of creation upon the physical world - I strove for excellence and happiness; creating new values; sharpen my will to power. The abyss became not a necessary obstacle but ultimately a choice upon the individual: engage in fatalism or become an active nihilist. I strove for the latter and the abyss dissipated. Tying all that in with the most intellectually stimulating semester I've ever had in college (19th American literature/20th century American literature (The Beats)/Studies in Fiction: Gothic), it was a very insightful experience. I remember closing my eyes and sinking into the ground where I saw Walt Whitman for only a moment, smiling at me. Because of those two in conjunction, Nature's colours radiate a way I've never seen before in my life prior to that experience. So much beauty.

[dyspraxion]

Leftover cough syrup for a couple months. The kind with codeine.

[Amargith]

Chocolate. I didn't like the taste of alcohol, coffee or sigarettes. Didn't dare to do drugs as I know I'm easily addicted to stuff. It's all or nothing, I don't do moderate, so I stay away.

[Yazoo]

Originally Posted by Noel

Very positive experience. People, I feel, can understand the notion of 'when you stare into the abyss long enough, it stares back' in a theoretical sense, like I have, but when physically confronted by it's mentally overwhelming. Initially it was terrifying to say the least; I felt sorrow as well as defeat. Yet I recalled values that I held as virtuous and worthy of creation upon the physical world - I strove for excellence and happiness; creating new values; sharpen my will to power. The abyss became not a necessary obstacle but ultimately a choice upon the individual: engage in fatalism or become an active nihilist. I strove for the latter and the abyss dissipated. Tying all that in with the most intellectually stimulating semester I've ever had in college (19th American literature/20th century American literature (The Beats)/Studies in Fiction: Gothic), it was a very insightful experience. I remember closing my eyes and sinking into the ground where I saw Walt Whitman for only a moment, smiling at me. Because of those two in conjunction, Nature's colours radiate a way I've never seen before in my life prior to that experience. So much beauty.

Wow. That is a great evocation, Noel. Thanks for sharing.

The influence of substances in great literature and music is profound and so it is unsurprising that it kind of occurs in reverse: substance experience can evoke art and heightens the sensory understanding of it. Of course, there are negative connotations to such experiences, but I do think that this process has been under-explored (in the realms of science and psychology) somewhat, due to the sensationalism in the media attached to any discussion of the subject.

[Lady X]

Originally Posted by Noel

Very positive experience. People, I feel, can understand the notion of 'when you stare into the abyss long enough, it stares back' in a theoretical sense, like I have, but when physically confronted by it's mentally overwhelming. Initially it was terrifying to say the least; I felt sorrow as well as defeat. Yet I recalled values that I held as virtuous and worthy of creation upon the physical world - I strove for excellence and happiness; creating new values; sharpen my will to power. The abyss became not a necessary obstacle but ultimately a choice upon the individual: engage in fatalism or become an active nihilist. I strove for the latter and the abyss dissipated. Tying all that in with the most intellectually stimulating semester I've ever had in college (19th American literature/20th century American literature (The Beats)/Studies in Fiction: Gothic), it was a very insightful experience. I remember closing my eyes and sinking into the ground where I saw Walt Whitman for only a moment, smiling at me. Because of those two in conjunction, Nature's colours radiate a way I've never seen before in my life prior to that experience. So much beauty.

i can relate to this experience entirely...and although i would never advocate drug use for anybody ever...you have to really know what it is and where it's coming from...and rather or not you could handle it...whatever it is.

but...a long time ago...i've had my share of this sort of life altering experience...that feeling that you have at sunrise when in this state of mind is like no other...and it stays with you always.

[brazil]

is it scary that i checked six different boxes as 'yes' when i responded to that?

[brazil]

i just looked at all the responses... and so far at least, the i/n/p people have overwhelmed everyone else on both the 'yes' and 'no' responses.

but maybe that just says more about those who visit this site more than anything else...

...not that there's anything bad about that.

[Harlow_Jem]

shrooms and lsd are by far my favorites.

[nhx]

I drink, off and on.

I used to be heavily addicted to ephedra; breaking my addiction was in a lot of ways worse than breaking my nicotine addiction.

I smoked a bit of weed and did LSD infrequently throughout high school; I wouldn't be opposed to doing either again (though I'd prefer shrooms over LSD) if the opportunity presented itself. I'd like to see how the experience would differ from my teenage "party" mindset to my current... more self-exploratory mindset.

Originally Posted by Argus2968

*NTP - DMT (Dimethyltryptamine) would probably be at the top of the list for "most appealing". DMT is by far the most dissociative hallucinogen. It's the only drug that can completely take you out of reality.

I'd try that.

Originally Posted by Noel

saliva

I'd like to get some of that before they baninate it...