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Old 09-25-2008, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Something to consider - F vs T

T - Everyone should be treated fairly.
F - Everyone should be treated as an individual.

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X - Everyone should be treated fairly individually.
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X - Everyone should be treated fairly individually.
And you still list your type as INTP?
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T - Everyone should be treated fairly.
F - Everyone should be treated as an individual.

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What about situations in which not treating someone as an individual would be unfair?
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F, imo, is more "Everyone should be treated well." Not to say it's 100% accurate.
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Just a side note, these aren't my definitions. I found them in the introduction to MBTI that I'm re-reading. If the book is to be believed the definitions are Ms Isabel's.
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What about situations in which not treating someone as an individual would be unfair?
Errmmm ... you panic?



I think that neither is ever intended as a maxim and nor are they supposed to be mutually exclusive. Yet again with T & F the two cross over quite a lot.
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Errmmm ... you panic?



I think that neither is ever intended as a maxim and nor are they supposed to be mutually exclusive. Yet again with T & F the two cross over quite a lot.
Ah, I see. I suppose my behavior isn't that unusual, then. I would probably treat acquaintances and strangers fairly. But good friends, as well as enemies, get treated as individuals (to totally different ends, of course).

Of course, there's overlap after this, since I still apply my sense of what's fair to some degree with friends in tense/conflict situations, and sometimes pay attention to an individuals needs even if I don't know them.

That's quite a mess, isn't it?
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Ah, I see. I suppose my behavior isn't that unusual, then. I would probably treat acquaintances and strangers fairly. But good friends, as well as enemies, get treated as individuals (to totally different ends, of course).

Of course, there's overlap after this, since I still apply my sense of what's fair to some degree with friends in tense/conflict situations, and sometimes pay attention to an individuals needs even if I don't know them.

That's quite a mess, isn't it?
Odd. I read it more as Ts treat people according to principles where each person is measured against a reasonable and reasoned target or maxim where as Fs treat people against measures that lie either within that person or the culture as a whole.

Perhaps that's F vs T reading it?
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