8 vs 4

rifeh · 09-05-2008, 08:05 AM

Was wondering, how a relation would be between and ENFP enneagram 4 and an ISTJ 8

(if this thread is not where it should be please redirect me)

Gen · 09-05-2008, 09:47 AM

Hahahaha! My mother is an INFJ (I think) 4 and my sister is an ESTJ 8. Its not very nice at all. My sister runs right over my mother, just because she can. I would suggest its only a good idea if both individuals are older and mature.

rifeh · 09-05-2008, 10:30 AM

i am the ENFP 4 the guy i love is a 100% ISTJ 8

and while i m amazed by his caracter i can t stand the fact that he s that cold

i have the feeling that i m the one who s fighting for this relation, and i m getting real tired

Gen · 09-05-2008, 10:35 AM

Move on, I think. Find someone who makes you feel appreciated. Its important for everyone but even more so for ENFP's and 4's.

rifeh · 09-05-2008, 11:15 AM

I concidered that so many time, but it s like i m so dependent on him.. you know I ve never been treated that low, he gets agressive sometimes in a way that scares the sh*t out of me, but thani ve never felt that protected or inspired by some one that way before him.
what kills me is that he s trying to make me become just like him! i know i m not perfect but for me to ignore my feelings is just impossible.

mlittrell · 09-05-2008, 01:26 PM

I'm sure your aware of this, im just stating it for the sheer fact it hasn't been mentioned yet. ENFP's can't and shouldn't be confined to one type...in fact, ENFPs tend to be a good 5 out of the 9 types. I'm a 9w3 for example.

As far as the question is concerned...the enneagram is wonderful for explaining peoples motives, whereas MBTI is great for explaining the person for who they are.

rifeh · 09-05-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlittrell

I'm sure your aware of this, im just stating it for the sheer fact it hasn't been mentioned yet. ENFP's can't and shouldn't be confined to one type...in fact, ENFPs tend to be a good 5 out of the 9 types. I'm a 9w3 for example.

As far as the question is concerned...the enneagram is wonderful for explaining peoples motives, whereas MBTI is great for explaining the person for who they are.

so if i understand well!!! it s like MBTI is for the nature of a person, while enneagrams concerns behavior?

mlittrell · 09-05-2008, 03:39 PM

thats they way i see it, very well put btw

09-05-2008, 08:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
rifeh Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: ENFP Location: turkey Posts: 13	8 vs 4 Was wondering, how a relation would be between and ENFP enneagram 4 and an ISTJ 8 (if this thread is not where it should be please redirect me)

09-05-2008, 01:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
mlittrell Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Type: ENFP Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,389	I'm sure your aware of this, im just stating it for the sheer fact it hasn't been mentioned yet. ENFP's can't and shouldn't be confined to one type...in fact, ENFPs tend to be a good 5 out of the 9 types. I'm a 9w3 for example. As far as the question is concerned...the enneagram is wonderful for explaining peoples motives, whereas MBTI is great for explaining the person for who they are. __________________ "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. " "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Mahatma Gandhi Enneagram: 9w1

09-05-2008, 03:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
mlittrell Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Type: ENFP Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,389	thats they way i see it, very well put btw __________________ "Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress. " "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Mahatma Gandhi Enneagram: 9w1

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09-05-2008, 09:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Type: INTP Posts: 287	Hahahaha! My mother is an INFJ (I think) 4 and my sister is an ESTJ 8. Its not very nice at all. My sister runs right over my mother, just because she can. I would suggest its only a good idea if both individuals are older and mature.

09-05-2008, 10:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
rifeh Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: ENFP Location: turkey Posts: 13	i am the ENFP 4 the guy i love is a 100% ISTJ 8 and while i m amazed by his caracter i can t stand the fact that he s that cold i have the feeling that i m the one who s fighting for this relation, and i m getting real tired

09-05-2008, 10:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Gen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Type: INTP Posts: 287	Move on, I think. Find someone who makes you feel appreciated. Its important for everyone but even more so for ENFP's and 4's.

09-05-2008, 11:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
rifeh Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: ENFP Location: turkey Posts: 13	I concidered that so many time, but it s like i m so dependent on him.. you know I ve never been treated that low, he gets agressive sometimes in a way that scares the sh*t out of me, but thani ve never felt that protected or inspired by some one that way before him. what kills me is that he s trying to make me become just like him! i know i m not perfect but for me to ignore my feelings is just impossible.