X's in type make very little sense

Into It · 09-02-2008, 05:11 AM

An ENFx has both Ne and Fe? Ne affected by Fi and Fe affected by Ni? To be comfortable using Feeling and Intuition BOTH introverted and extroverted sounds like being a superhero to me. Are their functions more numerous albeit underdeveloped? What's the story?

Trinity · 09-02-2008, 05:16 AM

I read it as x stands in place of P or J when someone is unsure of their type.

disregard · 09-02-2008, 05:19 AM

Don't forget the lowercase letters! What DO they mean!

murkrow · 09-02-2008, 05:19 AM

I also think Xs are dumb, but the way people test MBTI always gives percentages.

Since about 90% of the people on this site don't even know what cognitive functions are they don't think twice about throwing an X in there.

If I went by my tests I would be an eNTx

But that makes no sense whatsoever.

Is my dominant function Te and Ne?!

No.

Jack Flak · 09-02-2008, 05:37 AM

I don't want to offend anyone, but since I lack tact: I don't think people with a Great Understanding of 16-type use x at all, because they realize what type they actually are, and that they aren't meant to follow any "rules" of that type.

DigitalMethod · 09-02-2008, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Flak

I don't want to offend anyone, but since I lack tact: I don't think people with a Great Understanding of 16-type use x at all, because they realize what type they actually are, and that they aren't meant to follow any "rules" of that type.

, Great Understanding is a proper noun?

Babylon Candle · 09-02-2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Flak

I don't want to offend anyone, but since I lack tact: I don't think people with a Great Understanding of 16-type use x at all, because they realize what type they actually are, and that they aren't meant to follow any "rules" of that type.

the one that annoys me the most is INXP...how fricking hard is it to differentiate between:

"I'm an INFP who has the disillusion of being logical in my philosophies on life"
"I'm an INTP who isnt completely meanly cynical"

INXP!? bah!

Jack Flak · 09-02-2008, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigitalMethod

, Great Understanding is a proper noun?

The selective capitalization is for accent and Style.

animenagai · 09-02-2008, 07:32 AM

x's should not mean 'both', it should mean 'undefined'. in terms of MBTI, a personality changes too much when you flip any function.

InaF3157 · 09-02-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Into It

An ENFx has both Ne and Fe? Ne affected by Fi and Fe affected by Ni? To be comfortable using Feeling and Intuition BOTH introverted and extroverted sounds like being a superhero to me. Are their functions more numerous albeit underdeveloped? What's the story?

Are you taking into account the possibility that the decisive functions may be really close in the function order? I've looked at the tables that rank the functions based on types and noticed that they don't necessarily fit with people's actual ordering of functions. Suppose, for example, a person has dominant Ti/Fi in a tie or near tie, followed by Ne then Ni/Se. And then suppose that she identifies with much of the description for INTP and INFP, but neither totally. Further, one day INF fits better and the next INT. What would you call her?
I also wonder if putting the X may mean that a person misunderstands herself, rather than MBTI.

09-02-2008, 05:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
Into It Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: ENFP Posts: 543	X's in type make very little sense An ENFx has both Ne and Fe? Ne affected by Fi and Fe affected by Ni? To be comfortable using Feeling and Intuition BOTH introverted and extroverted sounds like being a superhero to me. Are their functions more numerous albeit underdeveloped? What's the story?

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Trinity Trouble Join Date: May 2008 Type: Ante Location: La-La Land Posts: 4,879	I read it as x stands in place of P or J when someone is unsure of their type. __________________

09-02-2008, 05:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
murkrow Peeping Tom Join Date: Jul 2008 Type: ENTJ Location: Montreal Posts: 968	I also think Xs are dumb, but the way people test MBTI always gives percentages. Since about 90% of the people on this site don't even know what cognitive functions are they don't think twice about throwing an X in there. If I went by my tests I would be an eNTx But that makes no sense whatsoever. Is my dominant function Te and Ne?! No. __________________ with your hands on your head or on the trigger of your gun?

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animenagai Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Type: ENFP Posts: 573	x's should not mean 'both', it should mean 'undefined'. in terms of MBTI, a personality changes too much when you flip any function.