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View Poll Results: Which of these type groupings is most useful for you?
is-in-es-en (xx--) 6 11.54%
it-if-et-ef (x-x-) 1 1.92%
ip-ij-ep-ej (x--x) 8 15.38%
st-sf-nt-nf (-xx-) 15 28.85%
sp-sj-np-nj (-x-x) 13 25.00%
tp-tj-fp-fj (--xx) 9 17.31%
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:41 PM   #31 (permalink)
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There are whole books out there that help you decide which division to use, depending on the purpose (The MBTI Teambuilding Program by the Hirshes is excellent).
Someone told me that Otto Kroeger gave a lecture last month on the different letter pairs and their uses. That would have been interesting if I had the time and the money.
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:52 PM   #32 (permalink)
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He, Hile Rutledge and Katherine Hirsh taught a 2-day workshop on it 2 weeks ago in VA. There are local Association for Psychological Type chapters all over the country and you might just run into such a program at a lower cost if you keep watching!

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Old 07-03-2008, 11:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Maybe try something like

INF: Introverted Intuitive-Feeling (INFJ)
IFN: Introverted Feeling-Intuitive (INFP)
IFS: Introverted Feeling-Sensor (ISFP)
ISF: Introverted Sensor-Feeling (ISFJ)
etc.

P/J and temperament are effectively removed. Yay for less stereotype!
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Old 09-30-2008, 04:55 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Quadrants (IS, IN, EN, ES): learning styles, change
Function pairs (ST, SF, NF, NT): communication, careers
Temperaments (SJ, SP, NF, NT): leadership, work styles
Dominant functions: problem solving, influencing, communication, spirituality
Last two letters (TJ, TP, FJ, FP): conflict resolution
Attitude/orientation (IJ, IP, EJ, EP): work styles

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Excellent. Now this would be even more awesome if you added a short descriptor for each. For example:
Quadrants
IS = I learn by...
IE = I learn best....
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:11 PM   #35 (permalink)
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-xx- for intuitives
-x-x for sensors
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:12 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I like mlittrell's idea. Someone should put it in a book.
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:18 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I can't really imagine grouping them much further than the dominant functions:

ESP- Se
ISJ- Si
ENP- Ne
INJ- Ni
ETJ- Te
ITP-Ti
IFP- Fi
EFJ- Fe

Any more than that and temperaments start to become impractical and misleading.
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^But then you run into the problems which were removed by the Keirsey grouping... It's a matter of debate, can you tell which side I'm on?
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Excellent. Now this would be even more awesome if you added a short descriptor for each. For example:
Quadrants
IS = I learn by...
IE = I learn best....
etc.
Quadrants and learning styles
IS: Let me know what I'm supposed to do (so I don't waste effort)
ES: Let me do something while I learn
EN: Let me lead while I learn
IN: Let me follow my own star while I learn

Quadrants and change
IS: Let's make sure the change will be better than the present
EN: Change? Great--let's try out new ideas
IN: Let's think about change, model what might happen
ES: Let's just do something!!!

Function pairs and communication
ST: Be brief and cover the details in order
SF: Give me the details that affect me and those I work with or serve
NF: Relate to big ideas and listen to me as well
NT: Respect my intelligence and give me the options

Function pairs and careers:
ST: Jobs that involve practical results and efficiencies--civil engineering, military, production management, emergency services, accounting or law that involves procedural matters or detail
SF: Jobs that involve helping others personally--preschool and elementary teaching, customer service, health care,
NF: Jobs that involve human community and growth--religions careers, counseling, training and organizational development, professors (humanities), communications
NT: Jobs that involve achievement, theories, strategies--science, start-up companies, strategic planning, criminal law, executive coaching

Dominant function and problem solving
S--add practicality, common sense and institutional memory
N--add possibilities and novel ideas
T--add logic, criteria
F--add awareness of impact on community and fit with vision

Dominant function and spirituality
S--spirituality is found through practical applications, human examples of why it will help, evidence in the physical world
N--spirituality is found in communities that allow for diversity and "gray" thinking, an awareness of the interconnectedness of everything, a desire to make a difference
T--spirituality is found through questioning, rational consideration of multiple pathways, logically charting out pros and cons and trajectories of systems of belief
F--spirituality is found in values, acceptance, building of community, and being able to help others

Dominant functions and influencing:
S--be brief, practical and sequential
N--tie to ideas, listen to theirs
T--be logical and respect them
F--be personable and tie it to the people involved

Temperaments...for whatever reason, I really never use them so I'm sure Nardi/Behrens have much better tags at their websites

Last two letters and conflict resolution (from Damian Killen's work)
TP--Take multiple points of view and want a defined process or progression. want to be able to analyze the outcomes
TJ--Want closure, see it as win/lose or win/win
FP--Want respectful listening, all concerns included, open exploration without judgment
FJ--want intact relationships and no lingering bitterness
[hence conflict resolution is difficult because resolution has 4 different meanings...]
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Operational Mode: --XX
Attitude: X--X
Thought Process: -XX-

It depends on which one I'd want to have a better understanding of in any given circumstance.
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