These S people with their tiresome case against N

[Ivy]

Originally Posted by Jennifer

- It's a balance between feeling free to joke around and/or address potential conflict areas, versus feeling safe and as if one is appreciated for themselves.

This is a good point. We've had some discussions in our church (I promise not to Jesus up the thread) about the difference between being safe and being comfortable. Understanding the difference is the first step in cultivating a challenging, yet respectful, environment.

Originally Posted by Jennifer

Everyone does have to give and take. Sometimes we'll offend each other by accident. It's just time to take a deep breath, remind ourselves while we are here, and then choose to continue to discuss. All of us can get touchy sometimes. That's just typical for a family or organization. The goal is to remember that everyone is on the same side (or that's the goal we need to focus on), then listen to other perspectives and try to accommodate others as best as we can, with the goal being what the best environment for the group is.

But sometimes people offend each other on purpose, and I don't know that everyone here considers themselves to be on the same "side" as everyone else.

[Jennifer]

Originally Posted by Ivy

But sometimes people offend each other on purpose, and I don't know that everyone here considers themselves to be on the same "side" as everyone else.

I know. Sorry. Idealism was leaking out. (It won't happen again!)

[Ivy]

Originally Posted by Jennifer

I know. Sorry. Idealism was leaking out. (It won't happen again!)

It better not, NT!

[Jennifer]

Originally Posted by Ivy

It better not, NT!

It's not my fault!

I've been forced to hang around with all of these NFs for too long! It's like low-level Idealist Radiation.

Yes. That's it. I've got Cancer of my Realism, and everything's starting to look all fluffy and sparkly.

[Athenian200]

Originally Posted by Jennifer

It's not my fault!

I've been forced to hang around with all of these NFs for too long! It's like low-level Idealist Radiation.

Yes. That's it. I've got Cancer of my Realism, and everything's starting to look all fluffy and sparkly.

Trust me, that's not nearly as bad as what hanging around all these NT's is doing to me. I'm getting critical, argumentative, sarcastic, nerdy, and even making ridiculous puns. Well, fine, maybe I did some of that to start with, but they didn't help.

[Lookin4theBestNU]

Originally Posted by Jennifer

I've been forced to hang around with all of these NFs for too long! It's like low-level Idealist Radiation.

Yes. That's it. I've got Cancer of my Realism, and everything's starting to look all fluffy and sparkly.

The NFs love you Jen Forget all that "realism stuff"! Come back to sparkle fluffy land!

[Jennifer]

Originally Posted by athenian200

Trust me, that's not nearly as bad as what hanging around all these NT's is doing to me. I'm getting critical, argumentative, sarcastic, nerdy, and even making ridiculous puns...

*confused* But... there's nothing wrong with that...?

Originally Posted by Lookin4theBestNU

The NFs love you Jen Forget all that "realism stuff"! Come back to sparkle fluffy land!

"Charlie! Come, on Charlie! Come with us to Candy Mountain!!!"

[Lookin4theBestNU]

That has to be one of the greatest things for NF/NT's together I have ever seen!! That's a keeper !

[Athenian200]

Originally Posted by Jennifer

*confused* But... there's nothing wrong with that...?

Exactly, and from my perspective, there's nothing wrong with idealism and emotional sensitivity either. So we both agree that our respective forms of reality are potentially reasonable approaches to things, with their own strengths and weaknesses?

Okay, I know you were kidding. (But what does this have to do with goats?)

Of course, we're likely to cross into each other's reality a bit. I'm a 4w5 and you're a 5w4, after all.