Thinking types and their emotions.

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A general principle, which was seen at work in my commission's meeting earlier this evening, is that use of Feeling will lead one to judge rules and standards according to circumstance and value; Thinking, in terms of consistency and coherence.

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MBTI does not measure emotion at all, so implying that feeling types have better development than thinking types is a myth and just plain inaccurate. Feeling types may benefit from showing their emotions in a more acceptable way in public and dealing with social niceties, however, these are not based on emotions just social values. The comparison is an apple/orange.

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"?" (you mind if I call you The Riddler? :P ), I do agree with you on that. However, Feelers make judgments based on emotion and personal values.

Still, either Thinkers or Feelers can be perceived as cold-hearted. With Thinking, it is more obvious with emotional (not Feeling) types. However, Feelers can be cold-hearted, manipulative backstabbers, as well, if they so choose -- they are more skillful at emotional manipulation toward other people to achieve their own ends.

It is also said how Feelers don't like conflict. But Thinkers may be inclined to do what's best for the group to avoid conflict -- thereby doing what they perceive as the right thing. What's right and wrong is a point of view.

I think conflict is more rooted in the P and J dichotomy. Ps, particularly ExxPs, are more tolerant of chaos and tend to be better at debating either with ideas (N) or by physical means (S). So you could say that ExxPs are more tolerant of conflict, while ExxJs try to resist conflict by controlling the outside world, either by changing (N) or stabilizing (S) the external world.

With Introverts, things become more complicated. IxxPs tend to tolerate conflict. ISxPs may enjoy observing the conflict in a more detached way because they enjoy being entertained. INxPs will also enjoy observing conflict because observations of the outer world fuel their minds with new ideas.

With IxxJs, they will tend to withdraw from the outer world and likely enjoy doing their own hobby. ISxJs will probably withdraw by doing something physical, such as going to the gym to release their anger or perhaps doing work around the house. INxJs, on the other hand, will withdraw into a personal idealized world and vent their anger out through internal desires -- constructing a vivid concept of what they wish to happen with the situation. This is probably why Ni types are the most inclined to meditate and be perceived as inactive.

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Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer

"?" (you mind if I call you The Riddler? :P ), I do agree with you on that. However, Feelers make judgments based on emotion and personal values.

Ummm... Enigma would be better I agree with the personal values, however we all can make decisions using our emotions. I think that Thinking types make attempts to preclude emotions, whereas Feeling types are more comfortable with it, however in the end it comes down to personal values and logic.

Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer

Still, either Thinkers or Feelers can be perceived as cold-hearted. With Thinking, it is more obvious with emotional (not Feeling) types. However, Feelers can be cold-hearted, manipulative backstabbers, as well, if they so choose -- they are more skillful at emotional manipulation toward other people to achieve their own ends.

Agreed. It reminds me of the fuzzy type saying, whereas INTPs are cold inside, but appear warm and fuzzy on the outside and INFJs are warm and fuzzy on the inside, but can appear cold on the outside.

Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer

It is also said how Feelers don't like conflict. But Thinkers may be inclined to do what's best for the group to avoid conflict -- thereby doing what they perceive as the right thing. What's right and wrong is a point of view.

Actually, I have read that INTPs avoid conflict at all cost.

Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer

I think conflict is more rooted in the P and J dichotomy. Ps, particularly ExxPs, are more tolerant of chaos and tend to be better at debating either with ideas (N) or by physical means (S). So you could say that ExxPs are more tolerant of conflict, while ExxJs try to resist conflict by controlling the outside world, either by changing (N) or stabilizing (S) the external world.

I will have to think about that. Conflict is relative. I personal look at conflicts as something to resolve, however I hate conflicts where there is too much emotion and becomes loud and boisterous. I will just walk away if I cannot reason with the other person. On the otherhand, when I snap I scare myself.

Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer

With Introverts, things become more complicated. IxxPs tend to tolerate conflict. ISxPs may enjoy observing the conflict in a more detached way because they enjoy being entertained. INxPs will also enjoy observing conflict because observations of the outer world fuel their minds with new ideas.

I don't enjoy conflicts. If I can contribute to resolve it, I will get right in the middle. Otherwise, again it's relative to what the conflict entails and how it's being presented. Loud and boisterous people make me nervous. When they are angry and showing a lot of emotion, I walk away.

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Originally Posted by Athenian200

So, what you're saying is, thinking types actually feel real emotions, and don't simply express false ones out of a desire to learn more about people and/or acheive their goals? But how can you know that they haven't merely become so engrossed in such a goal, that they've actually convinced themselves that they feel emotions deeper than curiosity, a desire for efficiency, a drive towards their goals, and survival, when in reality they don't? In more extreme cases of this, perhaps the person would even appear to be a feeling type, because they will have convinced themselves so fully that they genuinely care and want to be cared about. How can we really know that we or anyone else genuinely feel anything, and don't just believe that we do? That's the question.

We definitely feel real emotions...no doubt about it! I would go so far as to say because we ruminate on these feelings - when we express them there is a lot of power behind it! Because we've often analyzed it and decided how we feel and are committed to expressing it.

So we may not be as mercurial expressing emotions as F's do. We may inhibit the less important 'annoyances' that most F's have no trouble expressing. But it's mainly because, I think, that we realize a lot of feelings are flashes and fleeting moments and therefore, not worth investing energy into investigation or calling attention to.

Your last question is a philosophers wet dream! lol...I'm not going the way of the esoteric here. We can only speak for our own experiences. I know I'm feeling emotions because: I'm crying. I'm hurting. I'm smiling. I'm scared.
Simple as that.