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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    I'm an ENFP male, and I definetely think of sex as something carnal and "basic instinct" rather than spiritual and holy.

    I would agree that ESFP's more often have an exuberant sexuality and are probably more focused on the purely physical aspect of sex.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. In fact, if any attitude regarding sex has puzzled me, it's the "let's make slow love on a bed of rose petals until we achieve unity with the cosmos" thing.

    I've met some animalistic ENFP's, though. One ENFP chick I knew was very vocal about the dissatisfaction she had with her boyfriend who insisted on making love to her, rather than just fuck her.

    @Zarathustra, what are your observations on the differences between ENFP's and ESFP's attitudes on sex?

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    it's possible you're missing the meaning...

    it's not about rose petals...it's about what it means, what it is that you're expressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
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    My observations are basically what you've been pointing to: ESFPs are far more carnal and into the purely physical side of sex (let's call it "sex as sport") n whereas ENFPs tend to be far more spiritual about sex, and almost have a sort of disdain for the purely physical side of sex. I'm not saying it lines up 1:1, but I've seen too many corroborating points of evidence to not say it's a tendency.

    That being said, I have seen ENFPs who were more into the purely physical side of sex, one was an 8, and I believe the other was a 2. In part because of this different orientation towards sex than I see in most other ENFPs, I still hold out that either one might have been an ESFP. But I think they both were indeed ENFPs.

    I think the male vs female divide is considerable. As they say: "men are visual creatures". I just had an ENFP buddy of mine in town, and he definitely talks of sex in a typical "man way". At the same time, tho, he's very physically awkward, so, well, at least in the past (less so now, I suppose), the idea of him actually sexually satisfying/ravishing a woman seemed... unlikely.

    Another thing to note: all the ENFPs who have expressed this sentiment are sx 7s, and all the theorists say that that subtype romanticize sex and relationships to such a significant degree, it's like they look to the heavens when it comes to romance, and anything less than that ideal is not fully satisfying. As such, of the three subtypes of 7, they are actually considered the least sexual (with sp 7s taking that mantle).
    yeah yeah but a type 7 sx chic who's crazy about you can express it in that lustful kind of way...it's just that what's driving that is the trust and emotional connection/ bond rather than purely physical. imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_X View Post
    yeah yeah but a type 7 sx chic who's crazy about you can express it in that lustful kind of way...it's just that what's driving that is the trust and emotional connection/ bond rather than purely physical. imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_X View Post
    yeah yeah but a type 7 sx chic who's crazy about you can express it in that lustful kind of way...it's just that what's driving that is the trust and emotional connection/ bond rather than purely physical. imo
    Agreed.

    It does end up taking on a very different character, tho, than the more physical side of things.

    I actually very much like the 7 sx idea, but I would like to have that along with some "sex for sport" thrown in.

    It's kind of like Chandler said: the romance and drama is important, but not all the fucking time. (no pun intended)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Agreed.

    It does end up taking on a very different character, tho, than the more physical side of things.

    I actually very much like the 7 sx idea, but I would like to have that along with some "sex for sport" thrown in.

    It's kind of like Chandler said: the romance and drama is important, but not all the fucking time. (no pun intended)
    i disagree.
    @five sounds don't you feel like it can be random sex for fun too...when you're with the husband? it's not like an "event" every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_X View Post
    i disagree.
    @five sounds don't you feel like it can be random sex for fun too...when you're with the husband? it's not like an "event" every time.
    yeah, i enjoy playful sex in a loving relationship. i'm not always all serious about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    yeah, i enjoy playful sex in a loving relationship. i'm not always all serious about it.
    right exactly...playful is a great word for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_X View Post
    right exactly...playful is a great word for it.
    Yes!! Playful sex is so fun. Sorry I shouldn't be saying this around you sis haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyonce View Post
    Yes!! Playful sex is so fun. Sorry I shouldn't be saying this around you sis haha
    if i havvve to be made aware that my lil brother's having sex than playful is the least troubling haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyonce View Post
    What's your attitude on sex?
    I think of it as more lusty, primal, instinctual, physical, what have you, in contrast with the other ENFP's in here who seem to consider it more spiritual, holy and mental merging.

    I don't see it as just selfish gratification, though. It's about satisfying lust, yes, but also being physically attuned to each other, losing inhibition and letting basic instinct rule you. Just completely submitting to your own and your partner's lust and being totally present in the moment. It's about connection for me too, just not emotional, but on a more basic level, which doesn't necessarily require sex with a long time partner. (Even though having sex with someone you know well makes it way easier to be comfortable and attuned to their desire.) I also realize that this could be the kind of idealized sex Sx 7's are prone too, just my 7w8 version, lol.

    Words escape me when trying to pinpoint it exactly, but hopefully you understand what I'm getting at.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    If I didn't mention them being male, they were female.

    8s are lustier, and more appreciative of the physical side of things
    2s are lustier
    4s are lusty, but still in a more romanticized way



    793 sx, I believe

    Not sure about wing, but I'd probably side with 6



    Agree



    Yeah, I would agree
    Thanks. This more or less aligns with what I was thinking.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_X View Post
    it's possible you're missing the meaning...

    it's not about rose petals...it's about what it means, what it is that you're expressing.
    Yeah, I didn't mean it literally. I was just trying to portray "typical ENFP sex" as more of an emotional, love making kind of thing.

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