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    Quote Originally Posted by badger055 View Post
    I hate everything about this video. I'm guessing SO has to do with tolerance and I have none of that.
    No. It's because you're an ISTP.

    Yes, I would never behave in this way, but I appreciate the social instinct, especially so/sx. They tend to be pleasant, fun, energizing people. It can feel like too much at times, but I'm glad people like this exist.

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    As far as the OP goes, I would put my instincts like this:

    My sexual instinct is my default state, where I go if I don't work at being a more well-rounded, better person. I can tell when I'm getting too sexual heavy because I am an unhealthy one dimensional being, whose one desire is to fill the void. All of my borderline personality traits are pronounced. I'm inconsistent, erratic, volatile, clingy, addictive, obsessed. I am empty without the charge from someone or something else.

    I use my self preservation instinct to get out of this place. I start to pay attention to what really matters to me, what are my priorities, what will make me be healthier and more balanced. Self preservation for me is all about reminding myself of my values and making a point of honoring them, making them manifest. I start to get to work and establish a foundation, something to grow from, build upon. I feel solid, stable, more consistent.

    The social instinct is the last step, but one that still matters. It helps me be less self absorbed. I will read the paper on a regular basis, make a point of responding to emails, begrudgingly attend social events. I will make a point of being more connected to the world at large, what's going on, who's doing what. I think it's incredibly important to develop the last instinct, but it definitely feels like the hardest work.

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    @Sanjuro Did a fantastic job of expressing the sx/so dynamic so well, I will add the following for myself:

    There are periods in my life that are defined by a particular cause or political action that I immersed myself in, all revolving around social justice issues and equity. I am driven by my passions that it permeates my professional and private life. People are bewildered by me because I have no problem going against the flow if there is an injustice, yet I have a very calm, steady demeanor. My sx dom has also resulted in a non-sexual exploration of sensuality (if that makes sense) and delving into expressions of sex vs. love vs. sensuality. I can become obsessed by books, ideas, theories, artists, music until I am satiated and then don't touch them for months because I have gone onto something else. I cannot imagine anything more fulfilling than to be completely immersed on an intellectual and physical sense with my partner and kissing is the ultimate expression of that connection and intoxication. (Notice my avatar.)

    Sp is definitely last for me as I have no desire to acquire any material wealth, only to contribute. I am not into staus, nor could I be with someone romantically that valued that as it is completely foreign to me. I lived several years with no running water or electrictity or phone and didn't find it to be a hardship, rather I valued the simplicity and purity of living that way. I can pay my bills on time, but don't really think about my financial situation that often. I do love certain types of foods but it is more of a sensual experience; people always comment on how slowly I eat, lol.
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    @statuesquechica,

    I have zero desire to acquire material wealth and I could care less about status (status seems more like a social thing, honestly). Living in a simple/pure way appeals to me as well. I pay attention to health and nutrition to an extent but I also find it quite boring, like when people talk about it or I have to pay attention to it too much I want to slam my head against a brick wall. But I am self pres second. (See what I say about self pres above your post.) What preserves the self is going to vary depending on the person (not to mention their MBTI type and enneatype). Regardless, though, it will give a sense of groundedness/stability when it's in use.

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    ^Thanks for the feedback...perhaps my stacking is switched for the last two, though I really, really relate to all of Sanjuro's description. I do find that my passion for political activism is very grounding and necessary for my sense of well-being so maybe there is some sense in looking at sx/sp for me.

    My sense of my so is based on joining groups to accomplish goals, but I am not outwardly social. I consider myself soc moreso from looking at world and local politics, economics and how I fit into those realms and how I can contribute toward a greater good (sounds cheesy, I know, lol). I will have to look into this further....
    I've looked at life from both sides now
    From up and down and still somehow
    It's life's illusions I recall
    I really don't know life at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by statuesquechica View Post
    ^Thanks for the feedback...perhaps my stacking is switched for the last two, though I really, really relate to all of Sanjuro's description. I do find that my passion for political activism is very grounding and necessary for my sense of well-being so maybe there is some sense in looking at sx/sp for me.

    My sense of my so is based on joining groups to accomplish goals, but I am not outwardly social. I consider myself soc moreso from looking at world and local politics, economics and how I fit into those realms and how I can contribute toward a greater good (sounds cheesy, I know, lol). I will have to look into this further....
    I definitely wasn't saying you aren't sx/so. What you say about the social instinct definitely makes it sound like it's one of your top two. I was just saying that what you saw as self pres qualifiers are not universal self pres qualities.

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    ^Ok, thank you for sharing that description of sp qualities which is much deeper than my previous understanding. Whenever I have taken tests to look at instinctual stackings they always bring up physical/safety aspects vs. your deeper description. When I read about the various stackings for e9 I was actually torn between sx/so or so/sx.
    I've looked at life from both sides now
    From up and down and still somehow
    It's life's illusions I recall
    I really don't know life at all

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    I'm an So/Sp
    So: The way I use So is that I have manifested an image that I want society to view me through, the image is awesomeness. The top traits society wants in a person (as I have perceived it) are 1. Confidence 2. Wit 3. Style 4. Intelligence 5. The ability to improvise 6. Caring 7. Calm/Chill 8. Good Hearted 9. Independent 10. Out-Spoken 11. Funny 12. Indifference towards rules, I have used these 12 since I was a child to create the person that I'm today and to climb up the social ladder.
    Sp: Money plays an important role in my life in that I need it to enjoy myself. My hobbies include Video Gaming, Racing, Laser Tagging, going to the gym, and partying and without cash I can't accomplish these goals, I also use Sp in that I like taking care of myself by going to the gym, looking stylish and making sure that my surroundings are clean or messy (Creative disorganization).

    Day-To Day conversations- Consist of politics, humorous jabs on systems in society (satire), sarcasm, making fun of others (I'm an Asshole) and theories i.e For a man to be a great president the man needs to be horny prospects of this working are Bill Clinton and FDR and the prude George W Bush helps solidify this claim so go Horny for 2016 and Putin deserves to be hanged by testicles for the shit he's doing in Eastern Europe and for the fact that he can't just inject his poisons and call it good he is the grown as Joffrey Lannister.

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    So/sp here
    I see the world as a big web with all the people and their connections with the rest of the world. I see events happening and how they echo across the web, affecting us all in some small way. Navigating it is very challenging, but the more connections I make, the more aware I become, and the easier it gets. The best thing for me is getting ahead of the trends, and seeing what the next big thing is before it happens.

    So I'm trying to navigate all this craziness, and I don't want to get wrecked, so I try to keep my things in order. That's where sp comes in. Money makes the world go round, health is not replaceable, and food is delicious. I just can't focus on that stuff all the time. i really just don't want my lack of money, health, or fitness to prevent me from doing anything.

    So I feel like kind of a permanent outsider because I never want to slow down long enough to become one of the group, though I might be part of several groups at once. If I ever get stuck in one scene too long I become restless, like the world is slipping away and all these things are happening that I won't be in a position to deal with because I'm too much of an outsider and I can't count on anyone's support.

    I have no patience for people and things that try to command my attention, limit my awareness, or take up all my time. That doesn't mean I never relax or spend one on one time with anyone, it just depends on how much these people and things are aligned with my current trajectory.

    I think social climber works for so/sp, but I would sooner call it The Navigator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by statuesquechica View Post
    ^Thanks for the feedback...perhaps my stacking is switched for the last two, though I really, really relate to all of Sanjuro's description. I do find that my passion for political activism is very grounding and necessary for my sense of well-being so maybe there is some sense in looking at sx/sp for me.

    My sense of my so is based on joining groups to accomplish goals, but I am not outwardly social. I consider myself soc moreso from looking at world and local politics, economics and how I fit into those realms and how I can contribute toward a greater good (sounds cheesy, I know, lol). I will have to look into this further....
    Hey no guarantees I am sp-last, either. In terms of how I currently type, though, I'd say I have a very high likelihood of being so, though. You want to examine what self-pres would mean to a core 9 and determine what role that plays in your life. Like @brainheart says, some types are going to be less materialistic than others due to their focus. If you are heavily involved in socialy things though, it sounds like social is not your last instinct. It's not generally about being "sociable" for any type.

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