You've FINALLY learned how to properly quote, I'm proud!
No, really, I am.
I’m no authority in psychology and even if I were, you’d never listen to me anyway. You rarely if ever, listen to anyone when it comes to pointing out things you’re in denial about.well, facing it all by myself isnt exactly the best idea either. like ive said, it has been going well for a week or so now, but today my past (depression?) overwhelmed me again, and i wasnt able to eat my meal today because of it. it felt very pleasant to be alive again, until the point where i had to eat. -.-
Not gonna say what I think of this, it should be obvious enough. You’d shut out my diagnosis so I’ll let it be.
You’re not an INFJ by any stretch of imagination. Nothing will ever convince me of that. Maybe in another life.heres a one very infj'ish thing about me: my whole childhood, i felt like no one understood me. when i met my first infj at age 13 - 16 something, i felt like i was understood the first time in my life. if youve red infj forums, youll know how many times they mention like its the only place where they feel understood, lols. these days i dont feel like people dont understand me, but its the other way now, that i dont understand myself.
I don’t have a 4w3 fix an yet have the same ability. I thought you were very disciplined? Don’t slack of on that.and that ability to transform anything negative into beautiful is most likely my 4w3 fix, which i am VVEEERRY lazy at using.. =|
In order to connect to people you’d have to be open to that. And that implies seeing a point in it. You were doomed from the beginning.it anyways seems pretty pointless, though.. its fun, and nice to have strong connections to other people. i guess it even helps me stay sane. but i guess the problem isnt that, that the real problem is, that i find everything pointless.
I was under the impression people didn’t want to see the real you and that you faked happy all the time. What kind of conversations do you have then? Rhetorical question.i do like to talk a lot, unless my emotions are a mess.
You’re guilty of the same. Of course you won’t ever agree with it since you’re convinced you actually know more about people then they know about themselves or you.usually people come to view me whatever way i am to them, and then they get stuck into the idea that that is who i am.. -.-
Probably.my enfp friend did that once to me. was she expecting me to call her or something? =O..
i think it was just sympathy.
Of course it was.
Talking to you seems pointless because of that.and i usually always assume, that if i feel some way, theres absolutely nothing i can do to change it.
do you think thinkers could be so irrational?
i also think my emotions are all imagination. that none of it is real. that it shouldnt be taken seriously at all.
I don’t know what to say on that except you should do therapy. Your mind it’s only a third of you, but you see it as your whole.
Now you’re sounding suicidal.why do i even bother to live?
i dont know. i guess i hope it will help me find something? at least im becoming more aware of my irrationslity.
You guess? Not good enough.
I’ve never came across an ISTP who gave a rat’s ass about anyone else’s opinion on them. In fact, it’s one of their biggest characteristics. Not gonna discuss on that, it’ll make no difference.also, istp's care about what others think of them. they get all paranoid about that stuff. im the kind of person who has never sacrificed a thought to such matters.
And you don’t care about others opinions so much you’ve stated several times you conform to what they expect of you and fake happy.
Not gonna quote you rant on ISTPs love for sports, but did I ever say I thought you were an ISTP? No.
It’s actually quite cute the way you won’t give up on this MBTI/Enneagram correlation thing. Don’t let me spoil you’re fun!commonalities: they are all P doms. so dont know how it would manifest in a J dom.. like, if we speculated that im an intp 4w3. and could you imagine a vengeful intp? thats like seriously lame! =D
And as a matter of fact, all the three INTPs I’ve ever personally met are vengeful and admit that.
You seem to think that of basically everyone.[B]my thoughts on intp's is, that they first appear extremely stupid, then they also make stupid conclusions[/B/.. and if, if i can get through that phase, then ill see that they actually have some pretty valuable thoughts i can use. however, that applies only on unhealthy ones. the healthy ones actually impress me.
How could I NOT notice it? It’s all you do.perhaps a 4w3'ish thing youve noticed me doing: when i get an idea of an identity that i could be, i get all excited and start justifying it, all wrong.. <.<
Yes, do that.(irrelated: i have this constant urge to assume things. i just want answers, instantly, lols.. and i see i have to resist it if i want real answers.)
You’re one to talk. I’m actually laughing out loud.when i met this crazy entp 5w4, she was blabbering all nonsense, totally lost the touch with reality. and as i waited for her to realize that shes speaking nonsense, all i could think to myself was "wow. id hate to be like that." and the irony is… i am lost.
…that’s exactly how you come across most of the times.
That’s because you’re maniac stage goes directly against 9’s basic core need.the ennea i hated most thinking of myself was 9w1. it made me feel so, so empty.
I don’t. I find it exhausting which is why this is my last one.i think its funny how we misinterprete each other. like the istj i mentioned whom you referred as my "friend". he was the opposite of that. but i didnt see relevance in it, so i couldnt bother to correct it. well, perhaps the relveance is, that you might learn to not assume too quickly?
There is no relevance to that. He is what he is no matter his relation to you. Friend or not, it changes nothing.
HA HA HA HA…no you do that first, then talk to me.
...I can’t even.well, at one post, you agreed with me being an Ni + Se, as well as Ti + Fe. you also said im a thinker, and theres no way i could be an istp, so estp is the only one left. (uh, did i write this same thing alredy, or did i imagine i wrote it? =S)
I’m sure you understand the concept of taking every possibility into account and arriving to different conclusions because of new evidence being presented. I’ve never said that was my final analysis, it was what I thought at that time.
The source of your pain is not your Enneagram or MBTI type. You won’t find it while searching for them. Knowing those 4 letters won’t help in this case.i always knew that i have this immense pain inside me. no idea why. if i dont know the why, then how can i repair something which originates from an unknown source? impossible equation.
I do have an idea of what it might be, it’s actually right under your nose, but it’s up to you to find it.
I would gladly talk to you forever if I saw any progress, but you’ve shown more interest in escaping yourself and proving me wrong.for the record, i appreciate youre help. im such an idiot, and im sorry for that, but im trying to change..
i do learn things from you.
Change is good, for me too. I actually have learned things from this exchanges, so it’s not a total loss.
That’s the most humble thing you’ve said so far.
Anyways, do you realize this thread isn’t the right place to do what we’ve been doing? We’ve been out of topic for pages.