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[so] Are there so sp who arent capitalists?

Vilku

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i was just wondering, cause i like so sp's except for their selfish evil tendencies.
 

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Nope. We're all evil, selfish capitalists who kick puppies and club baby seals.
 
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Nope. We're all evil, selfish capitalists who kick puppies and club baby seals. And also we copy others' posts verbatim and claim them as our own, because we're selfish and evil.
 

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Nope. We're all evil, selfish capitalists who kick puppies and club baby seals.

Well you're a 583/538 So/Sp. Clearly supervillian material. Writers, if you're out of inspiration for villains, come observe the phenomenon that is [MENTION=16013]madhatter[/MENTION].
 

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Also, [MENTION=15003]Vilku[/MENTION], you are operating under the assumption that everyone considers capitalism more selfish and evil than communism. In order to evaluate the level of evil present in each archetype, and place it on a fair scale, we must remove other values attributed to ideologies, because not everyone will perceive a capitalist as being more evil than a socialist.
 

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Well you're a 583/538 So/Sp. Clearly supervillian material. Writers, if you're out of inspiration for villains, come observe the phenomenon that is madhatter.

Don't forget about the maniacal cackling. My evil repertoire would not be complete without that.

:dalek::borg::burns:
 
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Well you're a 583/538 So/Sp. Clearly supervillian material. Writers, if you're out of inspiration for villains, come observe the phenomenon that is [MENTION=16013]madhatter[/MENTION].
If I were a selfish, evil villain, I suppose I'd be some sort of cult leader. :shrug:
 

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Also, [MENTION=15003]Vilku[/MENTION], you are operating under the assumption that everyone considers capitalism more selfish and evil than communism. In order to evaluate the level of evil present in each archetype, and place it on a fair scale, we must remove other values attributed to ideologies, because not everyone will perceive a capitalist as being more evil than a socialist.

well the downside of huge costs being paid for individuals interest is unarguable and with a limited planet, i dont think we can afford to play monopoly with it, especially with peoples lives at the stake. i support chinas way as the best one, the only downside are stupid leaders who fail to reduce emissions of pollution which reduce the life quality of people. but that, could completely be blamed just for the fact that china isnt a developed country yet, so their way is still more efficient. also i think its foolish to let some people use more resources than they need when those could be used to build a better society.

if we are going to be rational, chinas way is unarguably superior to that of any other country on planet earth which i know of. and i also think their laws are more just. i do understand every instinct isnt in a good position at their culture, but i can say i am.

maybe we are all selfish, maybe i too as an so sx love humanity not out of my good heart, but because its the most enjoyable thing (and rational, cause you get shit if you throw shit at others.) ugh, i DONT KNOW... =|.. i just love humanity, cause we are all in this mess together and itd be lonely without others? this is frustrating, i cannot pinpoint the reason. i guess it is just cause i know the light side is more enjoyable, because light siders have the SWEET tender softness of feelings! <3 =D and i cannot quite grasp it, i was born with this determination to love everyone.

also [MENTION=5578]bologna[/MENTION] i have never met an intuitor so sp face to face, so i guess my view is distorted. and bologna, _when_ im evil, im heartless rational intense anti social bitch.
 

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I'm either so/sp or sp/so. I live in a heavily capitalistic country (USA!) but politically, my ideals are closer to that of socialism.
 
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because light siders have the SWEET tender softness of feelings! <3 =D and i cannot quite grasp it, i was born with this determination to love everyone.
How do you reconcile this with just having shoved an entire group of people into the "evil" category?
also [MENTION=5578]bologna[/MENTION] i have never met an intuitor so sp face to face, so i guess my view is distorted.
Is this to say that you're more certain that sensing so/sp's are evil people?
 

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Non capitalist So/Sp:

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i was just wondering, cause i like so sp's except for their selfish evil tendencies.
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Personally I'm more of a Social Democrat. I'm a thorough believer in the mixed model economy.
 

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How do you reconcile this with just having shoved an entire group of people into the "evil" category?

Is this to say that you're more certain that sensing so/sp's are evil people?

no, its just to say that because i dont find sensors attractive, so i havent seen the attracting side of so sp's. thus the only so sp i know are those superficial smilers who smile without feeling it. and for the record, i consider all of the evil instincts (so sp, sp sx and sx so) evil, but this is in a theoretical perspective, not my own opinions. as in my own opinion i dont consider sx so's intense rudeness as evil, although sp so's do so it makes them evil.

its the yin and yang.
 

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I don't know where you're getting this besides your own opinions, because it's certainly not from any theories I have read. Instincts in themselves are not inherently evil. By saying some instinctual stackings are "evil", you are saying the rest are "good". Not only is this inaccurate, but also a complete misuse of the entire system.
 

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I don't know where you're getting this besides your own opinions, because it's certainly not from any theories I have read. Instincts in themselves are not inherently evil. By saying some instinctual stackings are "evil", you are saying the rest are "good". Not only is this inaccurate, but also a complete misuse of the entire system.

no, each instinct has their inherent view on other instincts, and even if they accept all other instincts, you will still have a distaste on the one you hate most and i would classify, that there are three selfish instincts and three unselfish instincts. although, both tend to view the other as evil, but i still think the unselfish instincts opinion on the matter are more accurate cause they actually really are unselfish.

lets say, as an so sp, sx sp should be the most distasteful for you. well, sx sp's think so sp are trying to be gods, and thus you fall on the luciferian/satanistic side in terms of their beloved bible, what do you think of them condemning you for your inherent nature? well obviously you think they are evil. see, how it works?

for the record, im trying to accept every instinct, but it will take some plenty of thinking for me to achieve this.. ugh, sometimes i hate being an infj.. -.-
 

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no, each instinct has their inherent view on other instincts, and even if they accept all other instincts, you will still have a distaste on the one you hate most and i would classify, that there are three selfish instincts and three unselfish instincts. although, both tend to view the other as evil, but i still think the unselfish instincts opinion on the matter are more accurate cause they actually really are unselfish.

lets say, as an so sp, sx sp should be the most distasteful for you. well, sx sp's think so sp are trying to be gods, and thus you fall on the luciferian/satanistic side in terms of their beloved bible, what do you think of them condemning you for your inherent nature? well obviously you think they are evil. see, how it works?

for the record, im trying to accept every instinct, but it will take some plenty of thinking for me to achieve this.. ugh, sometimes i hate being an infj.. -.-

1. I don't hate any instinct nor do I classify them as good or evil, selfish or unselfish. I don't hate anyone because of their supposed type. It's futile and pointless, and I've seen this many times before. Granted never with instincts being called "evil". Assigning negative attributes to sensors or instincts you don't like for arbitrary reasons does not mean they actually possess those attributes.

2. Whatever traits that you're applying to so/sp, sx/sp, and the others have nothing to do with instincts. Gods? Luciferian? If such a bizarre situation would ever arise, I would think they're off-base, not evil.

Please educate yourself before spouting off ridiculous theories.
 

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1. I don't hate anyone because of their supposed type. It's futile and pointless, and I've seen this many times before. Granted never with instincts being called "evil". Assigning negative attributes to sensors or instincts you don't like for arbitrary reasons does not mean they actually possess those attributes.

"I don't hate any instinct nor do I classify them as good or evil, selfish or unselfish."

you just havent made the connection between the psychological theory and a group of people you dislike.

"2. Whatever traits that you're applying to so/sp, sx/sp, and the others have nothing to do with instincts. Gods? Luciferian? If such a bizarre situation would ever arise, I would think they're off-base, not evil.

Please educate yourself before spouting off ridiculous theories."

i know exactly what im talking about, and am 100% certain of these thengs. sure its personal knowledge so theres nothing i can do to promote your knowledge to the level i am in, as its obviously too high for you currently.
 

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no, each instinct has their inherent view on other instincts, and even if they accept all other instincts, you will still have a distaste on the one you hate most and(1) i would classify, that there are three selfish instincts and three unselfish instincts. (2) although, both tend to view the other as evil, but i still think the unselfish instincts opinion on the matter are more accurate cause they actually really are unselfish.

(3) lets say, as an so sp, sx sp should be the most distasteful for you. well, sx sp's think so sp are trying to be gods, and thus you fall on the luciferian/satanistic side (4) in terms of their beloved bible, what do you think of them condemning you for your inherent nature? (5) well obviously you think they are evil. see, how it works?

for the record, im trying to accept every instinct, but it will take some plenty of thinking for me to achieve this.. ugh, sometimes i hate being an infj.. -.-

1) "You" would classify. Based, of course, on your ridiculous ideas. Other people don't agree with you. Theories don't agree with your assertions. And, most importantly, none of what you say is logical.

2) Uhuh, both view each other as evil, but there is another objective "evil" (which I assume you have defined and which also happens to be identical to the "evil" as defined by the "unselfish" instincts), but the "unselfish" ones are correct because you said so. Right.

3) Assumption. Followed by a pathetic example.

4) So.. is it like.. a Christian thing?

5) No, I don't see how it works. I doubt I ever will.

You are not trying to accept all instincts. You are attempting to demonize.
YOu have also exhibited much inferior Ti. You are not INFJ.
 
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