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    Default Manifestations of Instinctual Variants

    Bouncing off of @Elfboy's thread about the "two types of Sx doms", noting the two prominent archetypes of romantic sx-dom and thrill-seeking sx-dom, I am curious about manifestations of the sx drive that depart from these two.

    Gathered thus far:

    SX

    Focus on: intensity, prolonging, engagement, passion, attention, sensation, merging

    - Romantic, true-love, passionate emotional bonding
    - Intellectual merging, sharing of thoughts, ideas, knowledge
    - Extreme sport thrill-seeking
    - Tendency to linger in sensation
    - Engaging in the same sensation over and over
    - Deep engagement with art and music
    - Promiscuity
    - Addiction, true "junkie"
    - Yearning, longing
    - Fear of loss of sex appeal
    - Enjoyment of personal physical comforting (snuggling, cuddling)
    - Dressing in an attention-grabbing way
    - Enjoying "immersing" scenarios (rave, club, etc)
    - Milking every experience for what it's worth
    - Disregard/avoidance of settings without opportunity for bonding
    - Engaging others through bonding
    - Being able to create "magical" experience for others
    - Strong reaction from others
    - Love for the dramatic

    SO

    Focus on: role, position, belonging, hierarchy, communication, adaptation, contribution

    - Desire and enjoy an important role in groups
    - Team player - "the group comes first"
    - Friendly with many, but close to few
    - Often compare self to peers
    - Fear of public humiliation
    - Awareness of what others think of you
    - Like to be able to fit in
    - Graceful entrance and exit
    - Desire to know what's going on in the larger sphere


    SP

    Focus on: independence, self-sufficiency, needs, stability, comfort, safety, trust, balance

    - Sensitive to physical and emotional comfort and discomfort
    - Fixation with food - quality, taste, texture, availability
    - Skepticism
    - Assess risk before actions, avoid risk, awareness of consequence
    - Fewer but more stable relationships
    - Trust issues
    - Focus on financial stability, hate being in debt
    - Routines/habits - sticking to the usual
    - Concerned with health
    - Hot/cold nature, withdraw when preoccupied
    - Ability to balance needs, desires / Limitation of overindulgence
    - Integrity and commitment
    - Prioritizing time for oneself
    - Attention to personal spaces, home is a sanctuary, enjoy personalizing/decorating
    - Preference for closed settings
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    This is sort of an attempt, as I can't speak for every Sp.

    - Focus on stability/security/comfort
    - Skepticism
    - Wonders ''what can go wrong'' before taking any action
    - Tendency to procrastinate
    - Fewer but more stable relationships
    - Trust issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    This is sort of an attempt, as I can't speak for every Sp.

    - Focus on stability/security/comfort
    - Skepticism
    - Wonders ''what can go wrong'' before taking any action
    - Tendency to procrastinate
    - Fewer but more stable relationships
    - Trust issues
    I would agree with that. Can't think of anything else to add though
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    I think this is how the instincts manifest in me:

    Sp
    -Comfort seeking
    -Sensitive to physical comfort/discomfort
    -Careful, avoid risks
    -Saver (as opposed to spender)
    -Routines/habits - sticking to the usual
    -Concerned with health, research potential health issues

    So
    -Enjoys having an important role in a group
    -Team player - "the group comes first"
    -Friendly to everyone, but not particularly close to anyone (influenced by sx last)

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    I'm Sp/Sx

    Sp
    - constantly seeking comfort and notice when it isn't there
    - frequently complain about the temperature
    - financial stability is VERY important to me
    - excess money is great too.
    - I demand tasty food. the point of food is to taste good, not to be "tolerable". screw tolerable, I want delicious damn it!
    - I have extreme intolerance to physical pain
    - things>people
    - when I go to a party, the first things I notice are "where are the snacks?" "do they look tasty?" "do I like the music?" "does it smell good or is everyone sweaty and disgusting?" "where can I sit down?" "is it comfortable"
    - strong awareness of the consequences of my actions (which contrasts starkly with the typical 7 descriptions)

    Sx
    - I love to listen to really intense music and repeat the song over and over
    - I'm terrified of getting old and losing my sex appeal
    - I love to snuggle. I could snuggle all day with someone I really care about
    - I like to dress in a bold, fiery, flamboyant and attention grabbing fashion. (blending in is for losers LOL)
    - get intensely addicted to things. (I want MORE damn it!)
    - I think my love of opera and anime both stem from the Sx drive for intensity and drama
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    Here they are for me:

    sx [strong]

    - High amounts of passion, intensity, emotional bonding
    - Intellectual merging, sharing of thoughts, ideas and knowledge
    - Extreme sports like extreme roller-blading, high-speed driving, rash behaviour that may or may not inflict self-harm [don't really care if it does]
    - Dancing at clubs/raves
    - Milking every experience for what it's worth
    - Complete avoidance and disregard of any social setting / group where there isn't a chance to have a high intensity experience
    - Attracting others to myself through the promise all forms of highly passionate communication and bonding experiences. This also includes sharing darker aspects of my personality, appealing to people's empathy and also providing my own empathy if need be
    - Over-dramatization and expression in a way that makes it magical for someone else. In fact, I've actually been told that by a number of people in their communication with me that once I have them hooked, they can't leave.
    - People miss me when I'm gone and they come back seeking the bonding/merging experiences I have had with them.
    - People either love me or hate me. And yes, people who have loved me at one point have grown to hate me just as I have.

    sp [weak]

    - I have a very hot/cold nature about how I go about things. I have an off switch just like I have an on switch - and I can be one or both seemingly at will.
    - Balancing all of the above into manageable experiences
    - Limiting the desires to over-indulge by adding an element of caution
    - Integrity, commitment, loyalty to job in order to make life comfortable for myself and my partner
    - Finding time for myself to do the things I love to do on my own
    - I don't care what shape or form my house/living space takes as long as myself and my SO are comfortable
    - Preference of intimate, closed settings where I can indulge in the merging with someone else.

    so [last]

    - Enjoy some get togethers with groups of 2 or more, but mostly if there's at least one person there I'm merged with
    - Enjoying only activities that I personally enjoy [I guess this is mostly sx/sp again] and being dragged along after some intense emotional manipulation has taken place by someone else forcing me to go along
    - Complete avoidance of parties if I'm not in the mood. In fact, I'm pretty much never in the mood for a party. I have to be forced. Until and unless I can find someone I like and have them all to myself 100% of the time.

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    Enneagram and MBTI was easy to figure out. Instinctual variants on the other hand, I don't get. Problem is both my social and sexual variant are problems to me. I can't tell if one is a problem because it is dominant or if i I naturally am bad with it because it is a "blindspot."

    Questions:
    Is it simply awareness? For example, I am preoccupied with finding and attracting a, err...partner. But I am not a promiscuous person and when I do identify someone I like, I don't seek after them. Actually, I do the opposite and try to distract myself, talking to others, trying to get the person out of my mind. Is this a SX dom thing or SX last thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Enneagram and MBTI was easy to figure out. Instinctual variants on the other hand, I don't get. Problem is both my social and sexual variant are problems to me. I can't tell if one is a problem because it is dominant or if i I naturally am bad with it because it is a "blindspot."

    Questions:
    Is it simply awareness? For example, I am preoccupied with finding and attracting a, err...partner. But I am not a promiscuous person and when I do identify someone I like, I don't seek after them. Actually, I do the opposite and try to distract myself, talking to others, trying to get the person out of my mind. Is this a SX dom thing or SX last thing?
    Sounds to me like you're strong sp with sx second.

    An sx dom will mostly typically do what they can to attract someone they like and not hold back. The thing is that they won't necessarily attract another person they feel that chemistry with as a romantic partner, but there are various shades of merging with other people for sx-doms and they're not always only romantic.

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    Sp

    -sensitivity to temperature
    -sensitivity to loud noises when I'm not in the right mood
    -fixation with food. Constantly evaluate what's available, what I would prefer and I'm also quite picky
    -physical and emotional comfort incredibly important to me
    -love decorating and making things look nice
    -financial stability very important. I panic easily about money (but I'm terrible at saving)
    -seem very hot and cold. Can't help but withdraw when unhappy or preoccupied

    Sx (pretty strong influence)

    -love intense conversations, but don't always have the energy for them
    -prefer intense relationships and have been disappointed when I couldn't get as close as I wanted
    -like dancing/club like atmospheres when I'm in the mood
    -some people cling to me and can't seem to get enough
    -when healthy, people either love or hate me, there's not much middle ground
    -love dressing well and standing out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Sounds to me like you're strong sp with sx second.

    An sx dom will mostly typically do what they can to attract someone they like and not hold back. The thing is that they won't necessarily attract another person they feel that chemistry with as a romantic partner, but there are various shades of merging with other people for sx-doms and they're not always only romantic.


    Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that it was only a romantic thing (I know it's not). It's just I've had so much problems in this department, especially when I was younger. I was very volatile. I wanted to connect with people, but was unable to for various reasons. I used to think I was SO second or first, but after reading a lot on this topic, I've realized that it's actually a blindspot of mines. I feel like I can come off too strong, and then I'll withdraw, back off, and act all aloof when I sense that I'm coming on too strong.

    I've also related to some stuff regarding SX last. There is a thread that describes public display of affection and it seems that SX last variants to do not like that. I don't like PDA either. The reason I don't like it is because it brings about a sense of inadequacy and feelings of being unloved. It reminds me that I'm unable to form connections as easily.

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