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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud of Thunder View Post
    Really, where? I don't post there as much as I do here.
    Just look it up in the enneagram forum: it was there. I would retrieve it for you, but I have been banned from that site 3 times now. First, I was "The Great One", then "George Glass", then "Sweetbabyray".

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    3 times? Wow, somebody hates you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud of Thunder View Post
    3 times? Wow, somebody hates you.
    No, I got banned the first time. Then, the second time they banned me within two hours of me joining due to the fact that I used the same IP address to create a new profile that I had previously been banned on. The third time was when I used an IP address hider, and they banned me for using it. PerC views me as a "very dangerous person" I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    No, I got banned the first time. Then, the second time they banned me within two hours of me joining due to the fact that I used the same IP address to create a new profile that I had previously been banned on. The third time was when I used an IP address hider, and they banned me for using it. PerC views me as a "very dangerous person" I guess.
    because
    - your personality is obvious and comes through
    - your blatant sexual humor gave you away
    - you are one of the only ones who leave spaces between the enneagram core type and the wing (ex: 8w9, you type it as 8 w 9)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I've heard that a social first E4 can be quite withdrawn and even down right avoidant in some cases (combination of E4 shame issues, social anxiety, and pressures to fit in). I find this true of myself. Was this true for you as well? Also, kind of shot in the dark and random, but how did you determine your second instinct? I've read a lot about the instincts from the oceanmoonshine site and from other sources as well, but it's not apparent to me, so I figure I'd ask someone who figured it out. Hope you don't mind me asking. It's not everyday I find another E4 social first, seeing as most E4 online possess some combination of sp/sx.
    You're right, so 4s aren't all that common. The whole thing is also made worse because of the bad descriptions out there for us - it raises doubts and confuses a lot of 4s who are actually so-first, making them think they aren't. And yes, I am also very avoidant and withdrawn, and I'm not at all interested in networking or social climbing.

    As for my second instinct, that one was pretty obvious to me because I behave so much like a sp (and because I don't have the sx intensity). I thought for a long time that I was a sp because of how focused I was on self-protection and avoiding dealing with things. I think the 5 wing doesn't help with the confusion, because it seems to emphasize sp qualities (much like Fe emphasizes so qualities).

    I can give you some links to decent descriptions if you want. I think more (accurate) information provides more clarity and understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud of Thunder View Post
    I ask primarily because I'm xNFJ (trying to determine just how much I extrovert feeling) and I'm pretty sure I'm Sx/Sp.
    I have a good friend who's Sx/Sp and ENFJ.
    He essentially has no social groups; maybe one. But for the most part he only hangs out with his friends individually. He's kind of awkward in groups; much better at intimate conversation one-on-one, than shallower conversation with a group. (The reverse of my problem, as either so/sp or sp/so!)
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    I am an Fi dom so dom (so/sp).

    Anecdotally, I can't say whether or not it's unusual to be wired this way.

    Personally, it does feel a bit weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    I can give you some links to decent descriptions if you want. I think more (accurate) information provides more clarity and understanding.
    Sure, that would be great. Thanks.

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    I don't think it's correlated with Fe. It's correlated with E, maybe, but not with Fe especially.

    So is about getting empowerment and be enlarged toward a larger structure and sphere, to pay attention to how you get along with the herd of similars. That can go with any functions, but especially the extroverts, not necessarly Fe though. There's nothing which say that you necessarly want harmony and be agreeable,take external values in consideration to take decisions, to be compassionate and nurturing. So peoples are often the total opposite of this.

    Actually, there maybe a correlation with repression of Fe or futil Fe. But not necessarly being FJ.

    The typical So/Sp seems to be ENTJ and the typical So/Sx to be ENFP.

    The typical Sp/So seems to be ENTJ and the typical Sp/Sx to be ISFP.

    The typical Sx/Sp seems to be INFP and the typical Sx/So to be ESFP.
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    @Speed Gavroche
    I tend to see
    - So/Sp: ESTJ
    - So/Sx: ESFJ
    - Sp/So: ENTJ
    - Sp/Sx: INTJ
    - Sx/So: ESFP
    - Sx/Sp: INFP
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