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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Indeed, I am a diplomat

    I lol'd at the "wizard" description. Too bad wizards only get 1d4 hit points :\
    Good, because I don't identify with it. I use the oceans-moonshine descriptions.
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    I liked this chart, but it makes enneagram looks like a giant guild where you're playing a class.
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    Like most sexual 5 descriptions this one is awful and too vague. No wonder I mistyped my instincts since I didn't relate to or understood what "sharing confidential information/secrets" meant. I do now because I understand the theory better but most of all, sexual 5 is just being very passionate about ideas and you want to share them with people you think will care. You connect with people by sharing ideas.

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    The sp 3, sp 8, and parts of sx 6 descriptions sound more like me than sp 9 does. What even? xD
    Comfort seeking? No. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faceless Beauty View Post
    The sp 3, sp 8, and parts of sx 6 descriptions sound more like me than sp 9 does. What even? xD
    Comfort seeking? No. xD
    By that logic I'm an sx 8 XD

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    https://oceanmoonshine9.wordpress.com/five-stacks/

    The reason I don't like the OP description of the 5 Sx is that it misses a key point, and that is the Sx instinct in general focuses on the significant other. But the OP description doesn't even mention it.

    If I was new to this and had to choose between the three type 5 instincts listed in the OP, I would be hard-pressed to do so because they are so vague and very brief. At least give me a label I can identify with, if you must label me at all.

    In the past I spent a couple days pondering the stackings listed at the link in first line of this post, and this was the one that fit me best:


    "With this subtype, a lot of energy revolves around the issue of boundaries. Sexual/self-pres Fives tend to forge strong connections quickly and deeply, but if they feel betrayed, begin to feel overwhelmed, or if they feel that the connection doesn’t serve their true needs, can seem to cut the connection precipitously and “go cold.” They have high standards for significant others. They must feel that they can share their emotions with a significant other without being judged. This is their private world that they share. Relationships can be difficult, because individuals of this subtype will still want their own space and alone time, while at other times will want intense connection. Because the social instinct is least developed, this subtype is not very concerned with how others perceive them (except their intimates). This subtype is deceptive in that they may not seem to be especially intense – until they are engaged in a conversation they find interesting. Then the intensity and emotion become apparent. The internal struggle for this subtype is similar to that of the self-pres/sexual, but more energized and volatile, and getting to know this subtype means getting to know that.

    When unhealthy, the energy of the sexual instinct can combine with the dominant type Five fixation to create a very impulsive Eight-like anger. The strength of their convictions can then come out quite forcefully."
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    https://oceanmoonshine9.wordpress.com/nine-stacks/

    This describes my ISFP wife. Compare this 9 Sx description with that of the "Mystic" in the OP chart. It doesn't even match up.

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    The energy of the sexual instinct is at odds with the dominant type Nine energy and makes for a conflicted subtype. These Nines can appear to have a stronger connection to Three, for this reason. The assertive fiery energy engages in a constant push-pull with the calm peace-seeking energy of the Nine. This subtype can have an intense relationship with their environment. They are often drawn to solo sports or to an active engagement with nature that involves some risk and exertion. These Nines are drawn to peak experiences. They might enjoy outdoor solo sports or engaging in nature by way of hiking, rock climbing etc.

    With the social instinct last in the stacking, there can be an on/off quality when it comes to relating and these Nines are often somewhat moodier than the other subtypes. As with the self-pres/sexual, this subtype might not engage socially with the same smoothness as other subtypes of Nine. They seem to go towards others in a staccato fashion – they connect in bursts, then withdraw.

    When it comes to intimate relationships, this subtype can be needy. The merging of the Nine combines with the intensity of the sexual instinct to create a subtype that will always be in danger of losing themselves in a relationship. Their boundaries for themselves and their partner can become blurred which can lead to conflicts. This subtype might have a hard time judging clearly the degree to which they have merged.
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    does anyone know who wrote the oceanmoonshine descriptions or what happened to them? @Mal12345

    the usual social 5 descriptions are so different from their description of the so/sx 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decrescendo View Post
    does anyone know who wrote the oceanmoonshine descriptions or what happened to them? @Mal12345

    the usual social 5 descriptions are so different from their description of the so/sx 5.
    The link is in my post above here. I don't know who wrote them. I like the new descriptions because some of the old ones were a bit truncated. For example, the type 5 Sp/Sx description had only one or two lines.
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    y'all need some Naranjo up in here. the actual titles are:
    Self Preservation 1: "Worry"
    Social 1: "Non-Adaptability"
    Sexual 1: "Zeal"
    Self Preservation 2: "Privilege"
    Social 2: "Ambition"
    Sexual 2: "Aggression/Seduction"
    Self Preservation 3: "Security"
    Social 3: "Prestige"
    Sexual 3: "Charisma"
    Self Preservation 4: "Tenacity"
    Social 4: "Shame"
    Sexual 4: "Competition"
    Self Preservation 5: "Castle"
    Social 5: "Totem"
    Sexual 5: "Confidence"
    Self Preservation 6: "Warmth"
    Social 6: "Duty"
    Sexual 6: "Strength/Beauty"
    Self Preservation 7: "Keeper of the Castle"
    Social 7: "Sacrifice"
    Sexual 7: "Suggestibility"
    Self Preservation 8: "Satisfaction"
    Social 8: "Solidarity"
    Sexual 8: "Possession"
    Self Preservation 9: "Appetite"
    Social 9: "Participation"
    Sexual 9: "Fusion"
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