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    Certified Sausage Smoker Elfboy's Avatar
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    Default What is it really like to be Sp last?

    - how do you survive?
    - do you ever forget to do things like eat, sleep, etc?
    - do you ever have trouble seeing the consequences of dangerous actions or actions that might negatively affect your future?
    - do you care about money?
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    Whisky Old & Women Young Speed Gavroche's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    - how do you survive?
    I breathe. And I live with my parents.

    - do you ever forget to do things like eat, sleep, etc?
    Always.

    - do you ever have trouble seeing the consequences of dangerous actions or actions that might negatively affect your future?
    I think I constantly have a hard time with that. When I was a child, I did'nt know to swim, but I was very uncautious in aquatic environments. Then I almost died of drowning but luckily I was saved. Then I developped a aquaphobia that I made a few years to overcome. Outiside of that, I'm vigilant but I don't really care about consequences of my actions. As a 6, i'm afraid to be inadequate or to see my efforts attacked and ruined by an hostile authority, but all theses shit like "I'm scary, i have no job/I'm afraid to be homeless/you could die from this/I need to have a saving plan for money/I can't do this I'have to nurish me, my wife and my three kids/ are stranges.

    - do you care about money?
    I love money, I adore money, it's beautiful and it's useful. And I'm very interested in economy, especially issues about money like inflation, exange rate, national debt etc. I adore palpate pieces and banknotes and hear the sound of this. To win money and have a wallet full of bank notes in the inside pocket of you vest is a great feelings. I think I'am relatively cautious about not spending eat in too much useless ways, I control myself a bit. But I also do things like lost my checkbook and I never read my account statement.
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    I hear that sp last are the less mature than other types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asterion View Post
    I hear that sp last are the less mature than other types.
    We just look that way I think. And not always. Many Sx/So look older than they are.

    In what sense do you mean "less mature"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    - how do you survive?
    like most other people. i generally avoid life-threatening situations.

    - do you ever forget to do things like eat, sleep, etc?
    less forget and more put off. i tend to short myself on sleep if there is something more interesting going on. i have never had a problem with food, though. i just sort of eat when i'm hungry or when it's convenient. sometimes i'll get a headache if i haven't had anything to eat in a long time, but otherwise this kind of stuff doesn't bother me much. i figure if i really need to sleep, then i'll sleep, and if i really need to eat, then i'll eat.

    - do you ever have trouble seeing the consequences of dangerous actions or actions that might negatively affect your future?
    i'm an enneagram 6, so i'm thinking about consequences all the time. but like speed, those "off-limits" ideas don't run through my head, either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche
    all theses shit like "I'm scary, i have no job/I'm afraid to be homeless/you could die from this/I need to have a saving plan for money/I can't do this I'have to nurish me, my wife and my three kids/ are stranges.
    i mean, not that i really want to be homeless, but it doesn't seem like it would be that big of a deal. just like every other problem in life i would face it, overcome it, and move on. maybe i'm lucky and spoiled but things in life have always seemed to work out. i've almost died a couple times because of medical things (that i could not have foreseen) but i'm still here.

    - do you care about money?
    yes, i do. i am quite monetarily aware and am a good saver. i need to get better at investing, though.

    basically the way i see sp-last is that accounting for my own safety and wellbeing takes up the least of my headspace... and maybe that's part of why it's last in my stacking. i just don't worry about it. i am much too busy neurotically assessing the status of my relationships with individuals (sx) and where i belong (so) to attend to the pragmatics of my life, lol. which unfortunately means that i will leave my own work til last, i will put off cleaning my car and my house, and so on. it helps me a lot to have a significant other who reminds me to attend to my own things.

    i really think the instinctual stackings are less about ability and more about attention. it's not like we lack the power to attend to ourselves well; it's just not a priority for us. the same goes for the others. it's not like sx-last folk don't have the ability to closely monitor their feelings of attraction and repulsion, they just don't dedicate much time to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Asterion View Post
    I hear that sp last are the less mature than other types.
    in what way? probably we are, in terms of taking care of ourselves. but we are quite attentive to our environment and our relationships with entities, and in many situations that makes us more mature than those who are more self-attuned.

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    I call Sx/So "Loose Booty" and the So/Sx "Dorky".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud of Thunder View Post
    I call Sx/So "Loose Booty" and the So/Sx "Dorky".
    I call Sx/Sp "Diva" and Sx/So "Sex Drugs and Rock n' Roll"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I call Sx/So "Sex Drugs and Rock n' Roll"

    Oh yeaaah.



    Hehe, don't take it as an attack, I know what you mean actually. Most part of rock stars are Sx/So. Also most part of guru and dictator.

    This reminds me a rant from David Bowie (3w4 Sx/So):

    Later, I want to be into politic, and I intend to become prime minister. I'm a partisan of fascism, the only way to get us out of this disgusting liberalism is dictatorial and extremist far-right. Rock stars are fascists too, and Adolf Hitler (6w5 Sx/So) was one of the very first. He was not a politician but a great political artist, he has directed a country
    I think this quote is meaningful, we are more motivated overall to etablish a cult of personality than about rock music specifically. And some of us repress their need for drug and sex.

    I'd rather call the Sx/So variant "The Guru" or "The Ayatollah".
    I'd call the So/Sx variant "The Flash".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    - do you ever forget to do things like eat, sleep, etc?
    I do this and I am sp first . Although, I do this most when stressed & out of balance. Supposedly, your first instinct can bring you the most problems too. I am very aware of these things though. They preoccupy me and also get neglected or are not kept in balance.
    Often a star was waiting for you to notice it. A wave rolled toward you out of the distant past, or as you walked under an open window, a violin yielded itself to your hearing. All this was mission. But could you accomplish it? (Rilke)

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    - how do you survive? Easily, I just dont have a predisposition to fear of survival
    - do you ever forget to do things like eat, sleep, etc? No, I do ignore minor pains which could be hunger pains or being exhausted. Once they get serious I go in. I get sinus infections and I know when it gets to the point of "infection" that I need an anti-biotic for and an "infection" my body can fight off. I also dont fret over every ache and pain or sneeze.
    - do you ever have trouble seeing the consequences of dangerous actions or actions that might negatively affect your future? Not normally, I just dont have a predisposition to avoid things that arent that bad.
    - do you care about money? Only to the extent that it can pay for fun things to do and I need it to provide a roof over my head and food to eat.

    I have a friend who I floor because of my lack of Sp
    Me: My back hurts
    Her: Have you taken anything
    Me: No, its just a little pain
    Her: Wheres the alleve
    Me: Sitting in the bathroom
    Her: And you havnt taken any
    Me: No
    Her: Go take something
    Me: Ok

    ...this is after the first convo which went along the ines of...
    Me: My shouder is cramping
    Her: What have you done
    Me: Nothing
    Her: Do you have any alleve or ibuprofren or anything
    Me: No, its not that bad...as long as I dont move it to much
    Im out, its been fun

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