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    Senior Member Vizzy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    "Deep relationships" -- same thing, really. I don't understand casual friendships; for example, some people have groups of friends they do things with, but they don't really know each other as individuals all that well, or have any deep bond. I get to know a very few people at a very deep level, and a few of those I incorporate into my life ("attach at an organic level") in such a way that I would feel like I'd lost an arm or leg if I lost them. This also makes me happy, makes me feel secure, to have long-term, stable, deep relationships, people who know me extremely well, the good and the bad, and I know them in that way, too, especially over years. The longer a relationship lasts, the better I like it. It becomes an institution in my mind, something I can trust and count on -- all the things that go with knowing someone well over a long period, the shared jokes and references, the being able to know what happens to that person emotionally in different circumstances, what their triggers are, what it is like to be around them, the more I know, the more I like it.
    Hmm...I don't relate to this part of your post.
    I understand casual friendships...and that's the type of friendship I'm comfortable with.
    Apart from family, I try not to develop such emotional dependence on anyone. When people tell me they consider me a close friend, I feel a bit uneasy. They'll have expections now. It's a commitment of some sort.
    I try to not NEED anyone...

    What does that make me?
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    Yes, excellent description. The only part I don't really agree with for myself is this: "They may enter new relationships for the novelty, but they are slow to commit for they wish to avoid getting hurt." Part of my issue in that regard would be that if I enter a new relationship (at least if this is referring to romantic relationships), I'm probably already feeling semi-committed.

    I'm not sure I have an appetite for WILD adventures, but adventures, yes, most definitely. It might sound weird, but I prefer adventures which also have a foundation of safety. Ie. certain basic things are in place (like I have a place to stay when travelling); or I'm with a person who I feel will protect me; etc. But I love to have fun and explore, especially intellectually and culturally, and travel-wise.
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    sp/sx: Comes out as somewhat heavy and gloomy, or cool and detached. Often gives out a suffocating and insular vibe, as if their internal world is wrapped around by an impermeable membrane. Strong sensory impressions designed to awake sexuality. Makes one want to linger on one or two lines forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizzy View Post
    Hmm...I don't relate to this part of your post.
    I understand casual friendships...and that's the type of friendship I'm comfortable with.
    Apart from family, I try not to develop such emotional dependence on anyone. When people tell me they consider me a close friend, I feel a bit uneasy. They'll have expections now. It's a commitment of some sort.
    I try to not NEED anyone...

    What does that make me?
    - Sp dom
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    - introvert
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    - Sp dom
    - 5 (or 8, but you don't seem like that)
    - introvert
    So would that make Tiltyred Sx dom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizzy View Post
    So would that make Tiltyred Sx dom?
    no
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    It isn't bad. Kind of sexy in a way. I'm not sure what it means to attach at an organic level. Actually, I can think of one way but that probably isn't what they mean.

    What do they mean?
    I like that part of the description a lot. I think it's giving a sense of a deep connection that is hard to budge, but still ALIVE and growing with that person, not some burdensome attachment that stagnates their growth as an individual. It gives the sense of something natural, not forced.

    There's another description with very similar wording (see below). The sentence before it clarifies the meaning of "organic, root level". I think it means sp/sx types connect to people more deeply than they'd imagine we could because we may seem a bit detached and independent on the surface. We may also know people better & more deeply than they imagined, on a level they were not aware they had even revealed to us.

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    These people often have an earthy, mysterious quality to them. They are quietly intense, but to others may seem oblivious to the greater social world around them, instead favoring personal interests. They are slow to commit, but once they do it is with an attitude of life commitment, to the establishment of an impermeable bond. Others can be taken aback by how suddenly and completely this type can lock into them, and by the depth of understanding of the other's condition. They attach to others at an organic, root level, in contrast to the other subvariant's surface formality. Somewhat hesitant to enter new relationships, they instead preserve the select few enduring bonds they carefully form along the way. The sanctuary of home is of paramount concern, and this type takes particular delight in decorating their spaces to reflect their cherished sense of taste and depth. Depth and discrimination characterize this stacking.

    Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.

    Familiar Roles: the mate, the mystic, the quiet supporter.

    Examples: George Harrison, Jackie Onassis, Eric Clapton, Emily Dickinson
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    "I can establish an orderly, comfortable, and self-sufficient life by striving for intense pursuits and deep relationships."
    Motivation: to explore new ways to maintain a secure and comfortable living.
    Appearance: self-absorbed, wistful, calm, withdrawn, internally intense.
    Role: soloist, artistan, crafstman, mercenary, sensualist, hedonist.

    This type has a quiet, earthy but mysterious quality. They are intense within their minds, but may seem withdrawn to others. They may enter new relationships for the novelty, but they are slow to commit for they wish to avoid getting hurt. For the few interpersonal bonds they form, their loyalty is unbreakable, as their alliances make them feel secure. They attach to others at an organic level, as opposed to the sp/so's formality. They are often unaware of the social dynamics and goals of a group, but they can read an individual with accuracy. When they sense their well-being is in jeopardy, they either completely withdraw or confront the danger head-on. Many have an appetite for wild adventures, which they view as learning experiences. They see their home as a refuge, and they take pride in decorating their surroundings.
    The first paragraph description, about establishing an orderly, comfortable, and self-sufficient life is accurate for me. The appearance half, self-absorbed, wistful, calm, withdrawn, internally intense, is dead on.

    When it comes to new relationships, I don't take them for granted because I value close relationships, but I am quite slow to warm up. I don't want to get hurt, but once I do form a close bond with someone, it's intensely loyal. I am pretty aware of social dynamics and goals of a group, but often I feel that I am a bit too individualistic. When things get tough for me, and I feel that things may put me in danger, I confront it, or withdraw from the situation completely. I don't quite have an appetite for wild adventures though. I'm not interested in things that put me physically or emotionally in danger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elranger1 View Post
    What is the sp/sx all about?
    Food!

    Jokes aside the description is OK for me.

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    They see their home as a refuge, and they take pride in decorating their surroundings.
    Decoration isn't a matter of pride! I want my place cozy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizzy View Post
    What does that make me?
    Maybe sp/so?

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