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    Quote Originally Posted by foxonstilts View Post
    I don't mean literally in-love-go-to-the-chapel-get-married sort of love. More like very connected in a personal level with who they are as a singular being without comparing them to anyone else. It's deep. Almost like I'm giving them a piece of myself, I guess? I guess that's what it means when every description says sx goes for intense one-on-one connections. It's like I see them, faults and all, and still respect/adore them all the same and would do almost anything for them. It makes betrayal a lot worse.

    It's basically like I give every person I like a piece of me. I think. I haven't actually thought about it enough to know how to describe it very well in words.
    i know exactly what you mean...like the relationship you all share is sacred almost. like we both know it and feel it's depth and it feels completely unique to us....and yes to betray that is devastating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxonstilts View Post
    I don't mean literally in-love-go-to-the-chapel-get-married sort of love. More like very connected in a personal level with who they are as a singular being without comparing them to anyone else. It's deep. Almost like I'm giving them a piece of myself, I guess? I guess that's what it means when every description says sx goes for intense one-on-one connections. It's like I see them, faults and all, and still respect/adore them all the same and would do almost anything for them. It makes betrayal a lot worse.

    It's basically like I give every person I like a piece of me. I think. I haven't actually thought about it enough to know how to describe it very well in words.
    Hm. I'm not too sure of what you mean by "giving them a piece of yourself", but I do still "respect/adore them all the same and would do almost anything for them." That sums it up pretty well. However, I would never betray anyone. Ever. I've never felt vengeance at all. I feel like I'm attached to everybody, if you know what I mean. I attach to people even more quickly if you get to know me better. I may not proactively seek out relationships with people (I'm extremely passive), but when I'm making friends with someone, I am very interested in them. I am perfectly comfortable with steadily staying the night with a friend whom I've met within the last 24 hours. I love everyone I know.

    EDIT: Oh, disregard what I said about never betraying someone. I misinterpreted what you said.
    But yeah, it breaks my heart when someone betrays me. But I never feel vengeance for them. I will accept them back as best-buddies in a second.
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    Yeah, being betrayed by someone I fully confided in, gave myself to, destroys me.

    It takes me a long time to get over it, although if they would just come back... I would forgive. But I also would be much more cautious and reserved.

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    ughh tell me about it and from a friend you would've done anything for..i've only experienced it once in my life...just recently and wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    About the "wall of posts" -- why not? Because you'd like to treat the topic more generally? Your OP was all about you and an example of how you don't identify with the "allure" thing, so it's natural people would first question whether you are SX and want to clarify what variant you are likely to be, before deciding to progress and start creating subcategories of SX based on your atypical experiences.



    ANything else that doesn't match from SP? Especially if you are an N and not an S, I wouldn't weigh that particular trait too heavily. remember, we're also talking three BROAD categories, and it's pretty likely that not every characteristic at the extreme strength described is going to match someone who fits into a category.
    Actually, I was responding to a wall post from Hazashin who asked me if he has to be attractive and alluring to be an Sx-dom. My answer is: how do you know that you're NOT attractive and alluring?

    The rest of the OP explained that I never saw myself that way until my present wife came along. And so I explained that maybe it would be best to ask someone else if he's attractive and alluring. After all, I didn't know anything about this "aura" of mine until my wife told me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    I think SX's generally have an intense look in their eyes, and also don't really hold it back. I think SX's might be proof that I'm SP first and SX second, as when I come across others with that look in their eyes, it makes me react by looking away. I prefer to be more... aloof and hidden. It's sort of a soul piercing stare, and I can't have people staring into my soul. :P
    I never thought about the way my eyes look in this context, but mine have that intense look at times. At other times, they have a sad appearance. I read somewhere that this is actually type specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Ask what, exactly?
    If you have to be attractive and alluring to be an Sx-dom. Remember where you wrote me on my public messages, "Well, I'd say never having a girlfriend or having anyone comment on my attractiveness is pretty good evidence that I'm not attractive." Actually - no, that kind of proof by negatives is no proof at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    If you have to be attractive and alluring to be an Sx-dom. Remember where you wrote me on my public messages, "Well, I'd say never having a girlfriend or having anyone comment on my attractiveness is pretty good evidence that I'm not attractive." Actually - no, that kind of proof by negatives is no proof at all.
    Wait, I just read it again, and I think you were saying I should ask someone if I'm alluring or attractive because you said that it took you 20 years to figure it out when your wife told you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    ANything else that doesn't match from SP? Especially if you are an N and not an S, I wouldn't weigh that particular trait too heavily. remember, we're also talking three BROAD categories, and it's pretty likely that not every characteristic at the extreme strength described is going to match someone who fits into a category.
    That quote was the entirety of the Sp description in general on that page. So I kind of have to weigh that trait heavily as it is the only one listed, assuming there are more somewhere out there. It's not like a test where I can score lightly on some traits and more heavily on others, and then come out slightly on the heavy side.

    This form of typology is really making me think... I believe that even as an older child - say, 10 years old - I was a daredevil, riding my bike down flights of stairs, swinging to the highest point on the swing set where I could jump off and set a length record. A lot of things of that nature. That is an anti-Sp trait in my view. I had more scraped knees and elbows than any of my friends.

    But then again, one can always say I'm just expressing the counter-phobic six-wing of my core type. That's where these two typologies get all mixed up.

    My present reading of the Sp type has reminded of the Ansir typology due to the fact that the Sp descriptions sound a LOT like the Ansir Sentinel type. But my score on that test category was way too low to be considered noteworthy on all three sides. I am not a Thinking sentinel, nor an Emoting sentinel, nor a Working sentinel by any stretch of the imagination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Wait, I just read it again, and I think you were saying I should ask someone if I'm alluring or attractive because you said that it took you 20 years to figure it out when your wife told you.
    Yes, at the time I did not see myself as attractive. Or if someone found me attractive I could explain it away as something else. And if women looked in my direction, I figured there was something wrong with my presentation somewhere.

    Edit - from my experience, the fact that nobody has told you doesn't MEAN anything. If you see yourself in some Sx descriptions and none of the others, then maybe you should just consider that.

    Even as introspective as I am, I'm finding this a very difficult type call to make for myself. I wouldn't even attempt to type someone I don't know enough about.
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