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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    It was supposed to learn me something? I know all that.
    Then why did you write "The independance of objectivists could'nt match with the exigency for dogmatism and fidelity form Ayn Rand"? By the way, it's n't not 'nt. It's a contraction of "not," therefore the apostrophe stands for the omitted letter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Then why did you write "The independance of objectivists could'nt match with the exigency for dogmatism and fidelity form Ayn Rand"?
    Because it's true. Every truly free-spirited objectivist finally leave the sect, Rothbard for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Because it's true. Every truly free-spirited objectivist finally leave the sect, Rothbard for example.
    The Rothbard thing occurred before the Great Schism. The movement could survive without that intellectual influence. It could not survive without the sexual romance between Rand and Branden. She was Sx-dom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    The Rothbard thing occurred before the Great Schism.
    It never came to your mind that the multiplication of theses sort of defection had something to do with the shism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    It never came to your mind that the multiplication of theses sort of defection have something to do with the shism?
    You're so on the ball here that you missed the edit I made to my last response.
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    The Rand movement did not split due to the multiplication of defections. The Great Schism occurred due to the break up of the romantic hero-worship relationship between Rand and Branden. The schisms which occurred later were [intellectual and] minor in comparison to that debacle. The Sx-dom aspect both made and broke the Movement. If anybody is So-dom, that would be Nathaniel Branden who wanted to start a school and an Objectivist movement which later became a personality-cult because of Rand's Sx-dom influence.
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    I'd read all of this about ayn rand but I've already endured atlas shrugged, fountainhead, and a couple of her shorter propaganda tracts- I mean her, er, novels. What I will say about her writing- it's the most pedantic, unromantic, unliterary prose ever. She repeats her self ad infinitum, her characters... If I was ever forced to meet them I'd be inclined to knock their teeth out. Well... Howard roark was decent, fountain head had its moments.

    What's stalin's instinct stacking? That's who she reminds me of.

    Oh, and what you quoted mal, about the sexual instinct repulsing- no writer has repulsed me more, I'll give you that. There is nothing sexy (I'm just saying, not in regard to instinct) about that woman, as speed says, she has no clue how to write about love and sex.

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    (also, I think katharine hepburn was one of the hottest, most vivacious women ever. She had real sexual energy. It's obvious to anyone who's watched her films from the forties.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    The Rothbard thing occurred before the Great Schism. The movement could survive without that intellectual influence. It could not survive without the sexual romance between Rand and Branden. She was Sx-dom.
    She divorced, so she is Sx. Brillant. And she divorced because she was disatisfied in the relationship, proof that she was not that invested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    (also, I think katharine hepburn was one of the hottest, most vivacious women ever. She had real sexual energy. It's obvious to anyone who's watched her films from the forties.)
    She may have been very sexual, but I personally don't find her attractive. I'm sure I'd find her body language very attractive, though, if I were to see her.
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