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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    Yes, but surely you can agree with me that the sx/so descriptions out there sound pretty extroverted and bold, energetic.
    Well yes, but my point is that the descriptions are irrelevant. Figure out the bare values and principles that the descriptions are based on, then look for those in yourself - that will get you a lot further than looking for a description that sorta-kinda-maybe describes what you're like some of the time.
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    This was actually really helpful and makes tons of sense: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/fo...TOPIC_ID=25627

    Especially...
    Bitter Earth, I don't see sx/soc as literally 'extroverted'. I don't think a stack/variants make a person extroverted who is otherwise introverted. Sx/soc stack to me is about impact. So, the sx/soc wants to have an impact on the world, which is what is battling with the 4w5 introversion -literally the inability (and unwillingness) to get out of one's own world. Conflicted constantly, yes. Extroverted, no. Also, with SP being last, the inability to ground oneself creates a constantly oscillating nature, a walking vulnerability to both inside and outside events. The irony is that one is affected by the outside world, yet this type does not feel able to step out and get involved, and live life on the level of everyday people. Because then the connection with oneself feels lost. And to be disconnected from oneself is the real tragedy to be avoided.
    (and you're right, v.f.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    This was actually really helpful and makes tons of sense: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/fo...TOPIC_ID=25627

    Especially...


    (and you're right, v.f.)
    Eh, I relate to this pretty well. Actually, a strong part of Sx/So are withdrawn, and the most extremee cases of reclusiveness come from Sx/So: Howard Hughes, Hitler, Axl Rose...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    Indeed it's 5, but what if it's both?



    I think the Sp instinct substantiates the 5's need for time and space. But like you said, it's not a general characteristic of sp-dom. It's probably only in combination with type 5.
    I started a thread about Sp-last 5s BTW: http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...s-last-5s.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Eh, I relate to this pretty well. Actually, a strong part of Sx/So are withdrawn, and the most extremee cases of reclusiveness come from Sx/So: Howard Hughes, Hitler, Axl Rose...
    Seeing those three together... Sorry, hard not to laugh XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    Seeing those three together... Sorry, hard not to laugh XD
    They are 5w6, 6w5 and 6w7 respectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    They are 5w6, 6w5 and 6w7 respectively.
    no, I know. Just my ne got a kick out of it and I saw them like the brat pack singing together on stage. Eh, whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    They are 5w6, 6w5 and 6w7 respectively.
    What E-types are Pee Wee Herman, Donovan McNabb, Jacob Gyllenhaal, and Mira Sorvino?
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    What E-types are Pee Wee Herman, Donovan McNabb, Jacob Gyllenhaal, and Mira Sorvino?
    Thumbs up for Donovan McNabb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    Well yes, but my point is that the descriptions are irrelevant. Figure out the bare values and principles that the descriptions are based on, then look for those in yourself - that will get you a lot further than looking for a description that sorta-kinda-maybe describes what you're like some of the time.
    exactly. I'm extremely Sp, but the descriptions I relate most to at face value are the Sx/So ones
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