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    No animal should have the right not to be eaten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    No animal should have the right not to be eaten.
    Does this include you?
    "Where wisdom reigns, there is no conflict between thinking and feeling."
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Does this include you?
    Eat me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Eat me
    Do i need to bring my own sriracha?
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    After all this research, I find myself suffering from what Michael Pollan, in his book “The Omnivore’s Dilemma,” calls “ethical heartburn.” Is an animal’s marked intelligence really reason enough not to eat it?
    This is my question. Likely, our hesitance about eating intelligent animals comes from seeing them as closer to ourselves than dumb ones. are To us, dumb things are tools or resources; intelligent ones are companions or comrades because they're on our level.

    Not denigrating the moral aspect at all. But is that where the moral aspect comes from? Is there more to the story? Should intelligent animals not be eaten for some other reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jscrothers View Post
    This is my question. Likely, our hesitance about eating intelligent animals comes from seeing them as closer to ourselves than dumb ones. are To us, dumb things are tools or resources; intelligent ones are companions or comrades because they're on our level.

    Not denigrating the moral aspect at all. But is that where the moral aspect comes from? Is there more to the story? Should intelligent animals not be eaten for some other reason?
    I'm sure intelligence has something to do with it. But if so, it must be selective. People eat pigs, and they're pretty intelligent.

    In my case, I simply have a fascination with octopuses, which endears them to me. That's why I don't eat them. There are also dumb animals that I wouldn't eat. My dog, for instance.

    Okay, my dog's not a complete dullard. But she's not as smart as an octopus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOctopus View Post
    I will admit to eating octopus once, before they were my favorite animal. It was like chewing on rubber bands.
    Yep. Once was enough for me.
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    my dog is far below an octopus on the intelligence scale... he's adorable though and I love dogs to the point where I wouldn't eat one no matter how dumb it is

    I WILL happily eat some traditionally adorable animals... rabbits are tasty, for instance and so are lambs (and sheep are total bastards and nobody will convince me otherwise... we raised them )

    octopuses have personality AND inedibility on their side (squids are much tastier in my opinion, so why would I eat an animal that I actually LIKE?) so I do not eat them
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    It's overrated food for rich people. People enjoy it because it's a rare delicacy, not because it tastes good.

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    If a creature is sentient, they want to live and feel pain when they die. That is the only relevant factor. There are humans who are severely mentally challenged, but we don't think that means there is no issue hurting or killing them. It's a sentience issue - not an intelligence issue. So, yea, if you're eating animals, it makes no difference which one you ate - except to the animal. They all feel the pain. When people start trying to factor in intelligence and personality, it is just skewing the topic and extremely odd rationalization.

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