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    Quote Originally Posted by cipher View Post
    Your life, that's what you owe it. You can't survive without it.
    Well, then "give" it your life...not death.
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    We should rather kill ourselves instead of using our lives productively and reduce or reverse the effects we have caused?

    That's a really lazy solution.
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    This sounds like painfully boring, hippie nonsense.
    Squelch your guilt. Either abandon whatever you need to abandon to redeem yourself for your part, or swallow your guilty feelings right back down as you utilize being human and man-made things.

    A lot of the time, feeling guilty just wastes your own time and energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Also, people, it's not the environment that needs saving, for it's own sake. The earth will be here long after humans are here. Environmental conservation is for our own selfish sake, not necessarily the earth's.
    That's true, but what about those adorable gun-toting pandas? Why do they have to pay for our errors?

    I realize that the general consensus is that killing yourself would be a lazy, cowardly option, but I blame that on the negative conotations and biases that are already associated with suicide. The point of the matter is, killing ourselves would be more beneficial than using our lives productively to try and reduce or reverse the effects we have caused.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silently Honest View Post
    Repeat after me: Photosynthesis.
    Oh. "As well as energy, photosynthesis is also the source of the carbon in all the organic compounds within organisms' bodies. In all, photosynthetic organisms convert around 100,000,000,000 tonnes of carbon into biomass per year." Indeed, that is good to read.
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    I am agreeing that to save the environment for its own sake is pretty dumb. The environment doesn't care what happens to it. People care because they have to live off of it.

    Go ahead and kill yourself, though.
    -Carefully taking sips from the Fire Hose of Knowledge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    I am agreeing that to save the environment for its own sake is pretty dumb. The environment doesn't care what happens to it. People care because they have to live off of it.

    Go ahead and kill yourself, though.
    I can't. As despicable as it is, I lack the strength of character.

    I am not actively trying to encourage people to kill themselves for the environment. That's none of my business, and it would be beyond hypocritical, considering my above statement. I was voicing my concerns and guilt, and what seemed to me to be the conclusion, based solely on emotions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cipher View Post
    I can't. As despicable as it is, I lack the strength of character.

    I am not actively trying to encourage people to kill themselves for the environment. That's none of my business, and it would be beyond hypocritical, considering my above statement. I was voicing my concerns and guilt, and what seemed to me to be the conclusion, based solely on emotions.
    I mean, if you believe in tikun olam, killing yourself is generally discouraged. You can do more to improve the lives around you and those of future generations alive than dead.
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    Tikun olam - repairing the world? I don't know what I believe in. I suppose, if the lives of the humans around me, the people, matter the most... It would make sense, I mean, what you're saying. But how do I know what is most important?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cipher View Post
    Tikun olam - repairing the world? I don't know what I believe in. I suppose, if the lives of the humans around me, the people, matter the most... It would make sense, I mean, what you're saying. But how do I know what is most important?
    I dunno, you've got to figure that out for yourself.

    Either that, or pick a religion. Put them all on a corkboard and throw a dart. That should get yourself started.
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    That's not fair. You can't tell me I've come to the wrong conclusion one second and then say I've got to figure it out for myself the next. Don't you see how screwed up that is?

    Oh no, religion is not for me.
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