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    If the City does the maintenance, call and find out how they treat them, if it's on private property call the owner and ask who does the upkeep and call them in regard to weird chemicals which is probably unlikely. In the north it is common for people to have apple, oak, pear trees etc. and never harvest. The amount of food wasted is unbelievable when you think about it. There is a documentary called "Meet the Foxes" about how there are wild foxes all over London and other major urban centers in the U.K. Too bad you can't eat them though because naive hippies who think they understand nature feed them cake and shit.

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    I know what you mean Risen, I have tried to eat them with some of my friends but the taste wasn't really that spectacular. Other types of fruits taste a lot better, IMHO; pears, nuts, olives, oranges

    Now coconuts are a whole different story, but I reckon they only grow in tropical areas. Perhaps in Miami you can find coconut palms, but cali is likely too dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halla74 View Post
    My wife and I went to Vancouver, B.C. about 7 years ago. They are about the same latitude as New York I think, maybe a bit more North. Anyway, we were very surprised to see three varieties of palms (Pindo Plams, and Windmill Palms, and King Sagos) planted OUTDOORS around the perimeter of a large public park that is on the water. We freaked out. The winters there are very cold, but I guess by the sea the salt in the water/air keeps these anomolous palms from ever freezing and perishing. It's truly cool to see them that far North.
    Wow, Vancouver? It's actually much more North than NYC (NYC being 40th parallel, Vancouver 49th, same as central Germany). I would have never though palms could survive anywhere above the 46th parallel (where is located highest-latitude palm garden of the world, or so they say:
    (Switzerland))

    Anyway, here we are approximately at the same latitude as Ottawa but we do have palm trees, since as Eric B says the Alps block almost all the artic air during the winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Wow, Vancouver? It's actually much more North than NYC (NYC being 40th parallel, Vancouver 49th, same as central Germany). I would have never though palms could survive anywhere above the 46th parallel (where is located highest-latitude palm garden of the world, or so they say:
    (Switzerland))

    Anyway, here we are approximately at the same latitude as Ottawa but we do have palm trees, since as Eric B says the Alps block almost all the artic air during the winter.
    WOW. I must go to the garden in that photo. Are you serious that is in Switzerland?!

    Here's some images of Maclay Gardens (Alfred Maclay was one of the heirs of the family that invented margarine = LOADED.)

    Palms are not the centerpiece of this garden. It has a very eclectic blend of established old trees and shrubs, including Live Oaks, Camelias, Sasanquas, Azaleas, Pindo Plams, Cabbage Palms, King Sago Palms, Windmill Palms, Needle Palms, Palmettos, Roses, Bamboo, Ponds, Walkways, a Lake, etc. It's just ridiculously well laid out and very scenic. I take my wife and kids there about twice per year. It's right down the street from my house, just a few miles. Ironically it is in full bloom in the winter, from now until March...

    I have several years of personal photos taken here, but I would have to go through my hard drive to find them, until I do, here's some from the Interwebs:













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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    I just discovered this thanks to the internet :P . If you live in Cali or Florida, you know these trees are ALL OVER the place and sometimes produce those big bunches of fruits that look like grapes. Ok, so apparently those are actually dates, and they are edible. Go figure! :P I never knew you could actually eat those things, though I had been wondering about them. Has anyone here ever eaten the fruits from any of the commonly grown palm trees? The next time I see some producing fruit I'll probably ask if I can't collect them for myself. I suspect the squat/short palm varieties would be much easier to get to though.


    You can buy those dates in the supermarket over in Holland and we have to travel at least 500 miles to see the first palm tree.

    That doesn't mean we can't make beautiful parks (just posting a picture to compete with the Swissians, it bears no relation to the subject of the thread
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    i never knew u could eat a palm tree. cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modern Nomad View Post
    i never knew u could eat a palm tree. cool
    Film it and post it. I wanna see you eat a tree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Arbiter View Post
    Film it and post it. I wanna see you eat a tree.
    by all means. you first.

    Im the type of guy who puts others ahead of himself.

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    YAY, GOOD NEWS! I don't have to settle for Queen palm fruits :P. After doing some more research, I've found that we have quite a few phoenix/Canary Island (true date palms) palms in the complex and in the neighborhood, and I notice some of them are producing flowers/fruits right now. Sweetness. I'm gonna be all over that as soon as the fruit ripens :P .






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    Aside from my love for free food, I have an equal love for plants, so the topic of palm trees is quite entertaining to me.



    Palm Fruit Photos



    Ripe, pollinated fruits of the date palm (Phoenix dactylifera). They are crispy, sweet and slightly pungent. Most tree-ripened dates are dried before they are sent to markets.

    In coastal San Diego County (southern California), female date palms (Phoenix dactylifera) produce parthenocarpic fruits without pollination. The fruits contain rudimentary, seedless endocarps, but nontheless are edible. The unpollinated fruits of P. dactylifera are smaller and contain less sugar and pulp compared with commercial pollinated dates.



    An unpollinated female date palm (Phoenix dactylifera) bearing parthenocarpic fruit. The fruits are less flavorful and smaller than pollinated dates and they contain a rudimentary, seedless endocarp. Date palms such as this are planted in the parking areas of shopping centers in San Diego County. The large Canary Island date palm (P. canariensis) is also commonly planted along streets and as a specimen tree in southern California. See close-up view of the parthenocarpic fruit in next photo:



    Parthenocarpic fruit from an unpollinated female date palm (Phoenix dactylifera). The fruits have a lower sugar and water content than pollinated dates and they contain a rudimentary, seedless endocarp.



    A: Pollinated Medjool dates (Phoenix dactylifera) showing a sectioned, seed-bearing drupe and fertile, seed-bearing endocarp. B: Unpollinated, parthenocarpic dates (P. dactylifera) showing sectioned fruits and a rudimentary, seedless endocarp.

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