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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    No bread??? At all??? Forever and ever??? Nooooooo please noooooo....Oh, okay, if I have to, then fine.... What about multigrain or wholewheat bread??? I like those, and I don't know - but I don't think they are too bad, right?
    Bread is something that I personally cut out of my diet (except for black bread) because once I realized how many calories are in even wholewheat bread I figured I'd rather get my calories elsewhere. The same choice need not be right for you, but it's meant as an example of a drastic change.

    Well I started today by getting rid of mayonnaise and butter - I think that's a step in the right direction! And I did not eat any sweets today at all (did I? no...I didn't).
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    Today I almost did not go to the gym - but then I thought, SHIT, you're going to have to admit you were a lazy ass tonight, so I went to the gym, and look how good I was.
    Good for you on both counts!

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    Caloric Intake (I was pissed off and busy, so I did not eat much):

    Breakfast:

    1 pear 75 kcal
    1 milk coffee 150 kcal

    Total: 225 kcal

    Lunch:

    1 pear 75 kcal
    1 milk coffee 150 kcal

    Total: 225 kcal

    Dinner:

    1 dark break roll 150 kcal
    50 g turkey breast 50 kcal
    tomato, cukes, lettuce 50 kcal
    VERY little butter 50 kcal

    Total: 300 kcal

    Total calories eaten: 225 + 225 + 300 = 750 kcal

    Total calories burned:

    BMR: 1100 x 1.2 = 1320

    Total extra calories burned:

    90 minutes walking 420 kcal
    - 10 minutes to the bus stop
    - 5 minutes to the company
    - 5 minutes to the bus stop
    - 5 minutes to work
    - 5 minutes to the bus stop
    - 5 minutes to work
    - 5 minutes to the bus stop
    - 10 minutes to the company
    - 10 minutes to the bus stop
    - 30 minutes from train station home

    Total calories burned: 1320 + 420 = 1720

    Total calories burned for day: 1720 - 750 = 970 calories

    Yeah, yeah, yeah - I didn't eat *enough* today. I know. I know. But I just did not feel hungry and I just did not have any desire to eat much.
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    Ehhh my Internet is not working so I had to wait until today to go to an Internet cafe. These results were from yesterday.

    Caloric Intake:

    Breakfast:

    1 dark roll 150 kcal
    50 g turkey breast 50 kcal
    tomato, cukes, lettuce 50 kcal
    VERY little butter 50 kcal
    250 ml low fat milk 120

    Total 420 kcal

    Lunch:

    300 ml yogurt 250 kcal
    1 apple 70 kcal
    1 pear 80 kcal

    Total: 400 kcal

    Fitness studio snack:

    1 banana 120 kcal
    500 ml fitness drink 60 kcal

    Total: 180 kcal

    Dinner:

    1 salad with mixed veggies, tuna and salmon 500 kcal

    Total: 420 + 400 + 180 + 500 = 1500 kcal

    Total Calories burned:

    BMR = 1100 x 1.2 = 1320

    Total extra calories burned:

    60 minutes walking 283
    45 minute elliptical machine 552

    Total extra calories burned: 552 + 283 = 835

    Total calories burned: 1320 + 835 = 2155

    Total calories burned more than eaten: 2155 - 1500 = 655 kcal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayscale View Post
    i eat 3 meals and 3 snacks in between it really seems to help your metabolism, it's kinda annoying. i eat this big meal and 1 hour later i feel hungry again.
    I've noticed this too although in my case it is out of laziness and not feeling like getting up to make something to eat and/or spend time on preparing and eating food. Anyways, if you always only just give your body what it needs to get rid of the hunger feeling and not "overeat" so to say i.e. create reserves, you'll get hungry much sooner. It becomes a bit of a vicious circle. And I agree that it can be annoying.

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    Meal frequency is an excellent way to manage your feelings of hunger. I think something that would help you understand what plan would be best for you would be looking at the soma types(ecto, meso, endo) and figuring how your metabolism plays with your hunger. Gray scale you seem like a fit guy with a good metabolism so I would guess that your more on the meso-ecto side of things.

    That can be important because people with good metabolism's will quickly burn off that energy from food and therefore will frequently hungry regardless of how much they ate. In my case I'm a meso-ecto so I have to constantly eat and I can handle bigger snacks and meals and eat more frequently to better handle my metabolism.

    In my immediate family though all the girls are more on the endo scale of things so they need larger more dispersed meals since they do not burn off the energy from foods as easily. It may seem a little obvious but I found it really helped explain why I could have a massive meal for dinner and then 3 or 4 hours later I'm back in the kitchen preparing a pizza or pigging out again, granted I wasn't in the greatest of shapes and didn't have even basic knowledge of nutrition but I still maintained a relatively athletic shape, something my sisters and mom couldn't fathom because their metabolism is very different.

    If you are interested here is a link about the soma types

    The major body types are: True Ecto Ecto-Meso Meso-Ecto True Meso ... - Body Types
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uytuun View Post
    I've noticed this too although in my case it is out of laziness and not feeling like getting up to make something to eat and/or spend time on preparing and eating food. Anyways, if you always only just give your body what it needs to get rid of the hunger feeling and not "overeat" so to say i.e. create reserves, you'll get hungry much sooner. It becomes a bit of a vicious circle. And I agree that it can be annoying.

    Viel Erfolg, LL!
    Thanks so much. I will try to lower my meals and eat more often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    Meal frequency is an excellent way to manage your feelings of hunger. I think something that would help you understand what plan would be best for you would be looking at the soma types(ecto, meso, endo) and figuring how your metabolism plays with your hunger. Gray scale you seem like a fit guy with a good metabolism so I would guess that your more on the meso-ecto side of things.

    That can be important because people with good metabolism's will quickly burn off that energy from food and therefore will frequently hungry regardless of how much they ate. In my case I'm a meso-ecto so I have to constantly eat and I can handle bigger snacks and meals and eat more frequently to better handle my metabolism.

    In my immediate family though all the girls are more on the endo scale of things so they need larger more dispersed meals since they do not burn off the energy from foods as easily. It may seem a little obvious but I found it really helped explain why I could have a massive meal for dinner and then 3 or 4 hours later I'm back in the kitchen preparing a pizza or pigging out again, granted I wasn't in the greatest of shapes and didn't have even basic knowledge of nutrition but I still maintained a relatively athletic shape, something my sisters and mom couldn't fathom because their metabolism is very different.

    If you are interested here is a link about the soma types

    The major body types are: True Ecto Ecto-Meso Meso-Ecto True Meso ... - Body Types
    Thank you for this post. It was really interesting. I think I'm an Endo-Meso. I mean I would say true Endo BUT I tend to get really strong really easily. If I train at the gym, for example, 15 reps 3 times or even 10 reps with high weight three times, I can raise the weight after three times (!) but ughhh that fat percentage just kills me. And if I wanna be skinny I have to basically STARVE myself TOTALLY. Maybe I'm even an Endo. I don't know. Ugh. I gain weight easily (TOO easily) BUT I can also LOSE weight relatively easily (maybe it's just water weight???) SO perhaps I am Endo-Meso??? Not sure. Maybe you can help me. With intensive training (like a rehab after an OP) I got more defined within three weeks (is that normal?). So I don't know. My hips are wide, but not too wide. My chest is big, my waist is like 8 - 10 inches smaller than my hips. My measurements are 42-29-38 (my lower chest measurement is 34 though - so it's not like I'm a tub, just well-endowed ). I'm thinking Endo-Meso? Could you lend your thoughts? Thanks.

    BTW: I'm hoping to get my waist down to 24 (yeah RIGHT!!! but I have to have a goal) and my hips down to 36 or 34. Chest - just forget it - it ain't happening LOL.
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    I don't think you're a full Endo, I think you guessed your type pretty accurately. I wouldn't back off the heavier weights if I were you It seems like you really benefit from them. Your diet looks good so maybe I would just suggest to just try and get in a little cardio to help with the body fat percentage. I found that It honestly really helped me, but the thing is you have to be pretty consistent with it , you don't have to go crazy or too intense but I found when I consistently made it a point to do( It was positively painful at first to get myself motivated to do it, which is sad because I used to play soccer and run all the time) you'll be really happy it honestly does make you feel better.

    In all honesty the biggest thing with working out is just being consistent, as long as your keeping on schedule with your diet and pushing yourself at the gym and not cheating yourself or procrastinating with your workouts you will make progress. Goals are also a nice thing because they help you always strive for something and keep you sort of accountable when you feel like skipping a routine.

    But yeah it seems like you have a decent ability to lift and it doesn't seem like torture for you( My absurdly skinny cousins hate lifting there ectos, but endurance wise I cant compete with them at all), so just experiment a little and try and see what works for your body. I think after you get in a groove and start seeing some improvements you start to get a sense of the type of exercises and routines work best for you and also your diet, so don't be afraid to experiment if you see something interesting, challenging, or fun at the gym sometimes the best exercises and routines are discovered that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    I don't think you're a full Endo, I think you guessed your type pretty accurately. I wouldn't back off the heavier weights if I were you It seems like you really benefit from them. Your diet looks good so maybe I would just suggest to just try and get in a little cardio to help with the body fat percentage. I found that It honestly really helped me, but the thing is you have to be pretty consistent with it , you don't have to go crazy or too intense but I found when I consistently made it a point to do( It was positively painful at first to get myself motivated to do it, which is sad because I used to play soccer and run all the time) you'll be really happy it honestly does make you feel better.

    In all honesty the biggest thing with working out is just being consistent, as long as your keeping on schedule with your diet and pushing yourself at the gym and not cheating yourself or procrastinating with your workouts you will make progress. Goals are also a nice thing because they help you always strive for something and keep you sort of accountable when you feel like skipping a routine.

    But yeah it seems like you have a decent ability to lift and it doesn't seem like torture for you( My absurdly skinny cousins hate lifting there ectos, but endurance wise I cant compete with them at all), so just experiment a little and try and see what works for your body. I think after you get in a groove and start seeing some improvements you start to get a sense of the type of exercises and routines work best for you and also your diet, so don't be afraid to experiment if you see something interesting, challenging, or fun at the gym sometimes the best exercises and routines are discovered that way.
    Thanks for the tips. No, lifting is not torture for me; in fact my personal trainer seemed pretty impressed. Granted, I had to start with lower weight after my hiatus from working out. But even after nearly two months away, I had to only lower one peg on all the weights and I did it pretty effortlessly (but I wanted to go easy at first).

    Actually, I kind of like lifting and 'feeling' my muscles 'working'. My legs are so strong that I did not even have to go down a peg I think it's all the walking. I just want to be careful with my upper body because I had a back OP.

    Okay, I have to admit: I was really good yesterday. I did 60 minutes of walking and 75 minutes of cardio and 15 weights and 15 calisthenics. Today I did not do much because I had my shooting. And I cheated: whaaa I had a waffle with ice cream and cherries. DOH! But I will be good again tomorrow and go to the gym and work out a lot, and I should be back on track. Sometimes I need a little cheat.
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    Shit I don't even remember my caloric intake and stuff for the past couple of days. DOH! I should write it down. But I know I worked my ass off yesterday at the gym WOO HOO!!!! 60 minutes walking, 35 minutes elliptical, 40 minutes stepper, 15 minutes weight lifting, 15 minutes calisthenics. So I don't feel so bad about being a lazy ass today (I did a shooting for an erotic calendar for my husband for Christmas wooooo hooooo!!!! So I did not feel like going to the gym. That lasted three hours, and feels like calisthenics LOL.)

    Caloric Intake:

    Breakfast:

    1 protein bar 190 kcal
    1 milk coffee 120 kcal

    Total: 310 kcal

    Lunch:

    1 dark roll 150 kcal
    50 g turkey breast 50 kcal
    tomato slice, cukes, lettuce 50 kcal
    VERY little butter 50 kcal
    250 ml juice 150 kcal

    Total: 450 kcal

    Snack (VERY, VERY BAD GIRL - tomorrow you have to work out forever!!!)

    1 waffle 500 kcal (whaaaa)
    1 scoop amarena ice cream 150 kcal (oh dear)
    50 g hot cherries 150 kcal
    25 g whipped cream 100 kcal

    Whopping total: whaaaaaaa 900 kcal (YOU ASSRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    Oh dear, I think I'm just having a salad for dinner.

    Total damage: 900 + 450 + 310 = 1610 kcal (hides her head in shame)

    Total caloric burn:

    BMR: 1100 x 1.2 = 1320

    Total extra calories:

    60 minutes walking 287 kcal

    Total calories burned: 1320 + 287 = 1607 kcal

    Total calories burned: 1607 - 1910 = -3 kcal

    GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! No waffles. No. Never again. Whaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! Dumbass!!! Grrrrr!!!!!!!!!! :steam:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    Snack (VERY, VERY BAD GIRL - tomorrow you have to work out forever!!!)
    ... I'm guessing you were hungry when you decided on the waffle?

    I totally recognize the pattern of being good and restraining yourself for a while until you suddenly sin and indulge in something wicked. I don't mean to preach but I feel called on to reiterate that what worked for me was reconfiguring my diet so I didn't have to restrain myself. When you eat filling, low-calorie meals, you have the stamina to resist temptation. <-- Basically, you'll know you're on the right track once religious imagery is no longer appropriate to describe your weight loss experience.

    For instance, if you replace your sandwich-and-juice lunch with a salad based on fall vegetables (I assume you have refrigerator access at work?), you'll feel much more satiated on the same amount of calories. Salads based on the kind of daunting vegetables that don't even really look like food when you're scouring the supermarket aisle (such as celeriac) are great with the right preparation and taste givers, I promise! I suggest you buy a good book of healthy salad recipes and take the time in the evenings to prepare them (it's a good idea to prepare two different ones at a time so as to maximize taste variety).

    Incidentally, I happen to know that you can get caffeine over the counter in Germany. Have you considered consuming your caffeine in pill format? I do that when I don't have time in the morning to enjoy my coffee but still need the caffeine. Just a tip in case you've been thinking of your milk coffee as non-negotiable!

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